the t25 is smaller but the exact same shape.. just go with a t3/t04e 60trim. it may take a little londer to spool but instead of maxing out at 230 hp on 18psi, like this this one you are looking at you will be making 200hp on a more moderate 6-8 psi and and it could produce all the power you would need to get out of your 2200, ie 3-400 hp..
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if you do the GT30R, do the .63 a/r. What you need to understand is, it will be very difficult to say OUT of boost.
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It spools that fast huh. The GT30R that is?
Hmm I am thinking that what I might want.
I wouldnt worry to much about boost lag, ive got a T3 super 60 and its not even really noticable, even with the intercooler and such. Once you go boost you'll start to see that its probably better if you had a little more lag, just cause its a bitch when you cant hook up until 2nd gear. I agree go with the bigger one with the T3 flange, i doubt you'll notice very much lag.
The GT28R is a ball bearing turbo, and it will spool like an undersized turbo and provide you with the top end power of a T4.
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Almost $1400 for that GT30R turbo? Um, I'll pass on that. You could spend 1/2 of that on a regular Garrett bushing turbo.
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
^^^ I know. The price is insane for it, but I am not paying for it you know.
ITs a long story. but I am basicly getting the turbo of my choice from someone for helping them with something big.
Alder, dude I love your 2200 set up, I have the few pics you have ever posted saved, but The pic I really want to see is How you fit a 3 inch Down pipe in your car with the Cav. connectoins manifold. ( I have the same, and fitting my custom 2.5 down pipe was hard enough).
Spotabee Racing (The Fake Z24) wrote:The GT28R is a ball bearing turbo, and it will spool like an undersized turbo and provide you with the top end power of a T4.
even though it will spool fast and cary power it will still limit your overall output, get something like i suggested. or if your not paying go with a gt40 its ball bearing and will make around 900 hp
and it will still spool in first gear! just pitting it under the hood?
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Lots of way off info in this post............
KEN 2.2 wrote:I have been looking at getting a Ball bearing turbo for the 2200.
I was thinking about this one The GT28R http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-002&Category_Code=GRT
The only thing I can think of is that is says its a T25 flange and my manifole it T3.
But I dont remember if they are the same size?
Or maybe this one, its a little extra but it comes T3 GT28RS
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-004&Category_Code=GRT
Both of there turbos are suitable for a stock 2200 motor, but without knowing what kind of hp goals you i can't say which will be the better choice. The GT28R is supportable up to the 250whp range and the GT28RS is supportable up to the 300whp range. T25 and T3 flanges are different.
240 your azz!!! wrote:the t25 is smaller but the exact same shape.. just go with a t3/t04e 60trim. it may take a little londer to spool but instead of maxing out at 230 hp on 18psi, like this this one you are looking at you will be making 200hp on a more moderate 6-8 psi and and it could produce all the power you would need to get out of your 2200, ie 3-400 hp..
He asked about two very fast spooling turbos that are in the 250-300whp range, why suggest a slow spooling turbo in the 500whp range for his 2200???
KEN 2.2 wrote:So you think the GT30R would be a better choice of the 3 then.
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-005&Category_Code=GRT
What kind of spool time could I expect out of this thing though? I dont want something too big, but I dont mind being a little ver sized. And I love the V band option.
The GT30R is a much larger turbo compared to the first two you asked about, unless you plan on making over 400whp is probably a little out of your range. It can support up to 500whp, although it will spool decently fast for it's size because of the GT BB design it will still have considerably more lag than the GT28R or the GT28RS.
Spotabee Racing (The Fake Z24) wrote:if you do the GT30R, do the .63 a/r. What you need to understand is, it will be very difficult to say OUT of boost.
I seriously think he won't have
any difficulty staying out of boost that that turbo.
Spotabee Racing (The Fake Z24) wrote:The GT28R is a ball bearing turbo, and it will spool like an undersized turbo and provide you with the top end power of a T4.
That turbo really doesn't have much top end at all, not really comparable to any T4 compressor i can think of. It can flow 31 LB/MIN max, which is not even as much as a T3 super60 (35 LB/MIN).
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I have been reading about these turbos all day. Right now its a toss up of the 2 turbos
The GT30R or th GT28RS with the T3 flange
The 28 will spool so fast, but I don't want to run out of high end power you know.
The 30 will big more than I will ever need though, and produce great amounts of power.
I am looking to be building a 2200. Full forged, pistons/rods. Cryo the crank and the block, spin balance the rotating assembly. and run 10-12 psi daily.
I want a reliable engine that can take a good beating you know.
listen to skilz, he knows his crap
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KEN 2.2 wrote:I have been reading about these turbos all day. Right now its a toss up of the 2 turbos
The GT30R or th GT28RS with the T3 flange
The 28 will spool so fast, but I don't want to run out of high end power you know.
The 30 will big more than I will ever need though, and produce great amounts of power.
I am looking to be building a 2200. Full forged, pistons/rods. Cryo the crank and the block, spin balance the rotating assembly. and run 10-12 psi daily.
I want a reliable engine that can take a good beating you know.
Do a little more research, there are Garrett GT turbos sized in between the 28 and 30.
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Yea but I really like the Ball bearings ability to spool fast. And I need it to come with a T3 flange.
Ken,
I have alot more pics of my set up. Catch me on AIM so I can send them to you.
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
