What mods would I need to do to my engine if I were to swap my T3 for a GT35R turbo? I bet a lot of work is needed to run high boost on these turbos.
97turbojbody wrote:What mods would I need to do to my engine if I were to swap my T3 for a GT35R turbo? I bet a lot of work is needed to run high boost on these turbos.
Well that depends on boost level, how much power you want to make... etc etc.
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the 35R is a big turbo. Good number of STi's and Evo's running them in the 400-500 hp range.
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GT35R is a monster turbo. Be prepared to pay $1600 for it and all the cost associated with running 25-30 psi. The GT35R isn't efficient until 25 or so psi.
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GT35R is a monster turbo. Be prepared to pay $1600 for it and all the cost associated with running 25-30 psi. The GT35R isn't efficient until 25 or so psi.
^^ you have absolutely no idea what your talking about do you ? Do not comment in this forum with rediculous claims such as the efficiency of a turbo does not kick in till 25 psi. A 2.4 motor with a nice port and polish head and some cams would spin the hell out of a 35R turbo. I am doing this in the winter so I will have to come back here and show you how wrong you are . You arent even turbo . intake on a 2.2 and your giving advise on a ball bearing race turbo ? you can get one for 1100 new . go home .
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Which engine do you have?
The effiiceincy range on that turbo is really high. I have looked into them before... and yes I am turbo... ball bearing at that
. My advice is that you buy your turbo based on the HP that you are shooting for. That turbo (all depending on the trims you select) is made to put out 500-600whp. That is a little rediculous if you ask me because chances are, if you had to ask this question, you don't have that kind of money into your engine yet. Even more, unless you have a 2.4 or an ecotec, I don't see 500-600whp being made even with tens od thousands into the engine.
I highly recommend ball bearing, but I'd shoot for something smaller.
You might try a GT25R turbo if you don't plan on breaking the 300hp mark or a hybrid with a GT30 compressor.
My BEST recomendation would be a GT28R ore equvilant.
I am running a custom Nissan/HKS ball bearing turbo..... It's beautiful.
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dragracemyz24 wrote:Quote:
GT35R is a monster turbo. Be prepared to pay $1600 for it and all the cost associated with running 25-30 psi. The GT35R isn't efficient until 25 or so psi.
^^ you have absolutely no idea what your talking about do you ? Do not comment in this forum with rediculous claims such as the efficiency of a turbo does not kick in till 25 psi. A 2.4 motor with a nice port and polish head and some cams would spin the hell out of a 35R turbo. I am doing this in the winter so I will have to come back here and show you how wrong you are . You arent even turbo . intake on a 2.2 and your giving advise on a ball bearing race turbo ? you can get one for 1100 new . go home .
Well, lets take a look at this situation, without completely tearing each other apart, because that doesn't accomplish anything.
1. No, I don't have a turbo on my car...mostly because I have much better things to spend my money on. It's not necessary to have ownership over something in order to be educated about it.
2. One doesn't have to be a genious, or even remotely educated about cars to realize that a turbo such as the GT35R, which is capable of supporting applications in the 500-600 hp range, is overkill for this guy. The GT35R will flow much more than needed in the application that we're talking about. If the person who originally started this topic is coming from a T3 and likely has few, or no internal engine modifications, they should know you're going to need a very strong setup to handle the airflow at which this turbo operates efficiently. Unless they are planning on doing all the necessary work, the size and trim of such a turbo would work against having an efficient setup at lower boost. - I'm pretty sure that's all they were asking for.
3. You don't have to be rude to others simply because you have a difference of opinion. And dragracemyz24, good luck with your turbo setup, because you'll need it for such an ambitious project.
anyways I apologize for being rude. But you bet ur ass its an abitious project. Hey if it doesn't work well I will go for the gt 30 R. and could you tell me why a 4g63 head would outflow a fully race ported head and valvetrain?
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Josh wrote:the 35R is a big turbo. Good number of STi's and Evo's running them in the 400-500 hp range.
There is an EVO with over 600HP with that turbo!!!
AMS evo has upgraded to a GT42 and made 775 whp @ 40 psi. Fastest street EVO in the USA....9.48 @ 156.6 mph
http://www.automotosports.com/employee_cars.asp
alright guys, thanks for the info. I got what i needed. I just wanted your opinions on the turbo on a 2.4L cavy. I will step down to a GT30R for an upgrade instead of my T3. I have the money for most of the work needed to be done i think. Just a quick question. What upgrades would you recommend to run the turbo at between 20-30 psi. Will i need mods to my tranny? My current setup works fine but i want more power. So help me out with the best way to rebuild my engine.
Here's the info on my car.
1997 Cavalier Z24 (2.4L)
My turbo setup:
Garrett T3 Turbocharger
Tial External Wastegate
Manifold with wastegate welds
Intercooler
Greddy Type S Blow Off Valve
Charge Pipes (w/custom welds for blow off valve)
Vortech 12:1 FMU
High-Flow Fuel Pump
RC Injectors - 370cc Fuel Injectors
Fuel Lines
20-30psi is a pretty big thing to do unless you run very low compression. Then you start to run into spooling issues being that a turbo large enough to support that boost pressure is going to be harder to spool with the less power that the engine would make N/A (lower compression=less load=less exhaust=slower spool.) I'd personally recomend throwing on a slightly larger turbo and building the engine. Drop the compression just a little and run 15-20psi to keep it much more streetable than what you were shooting for. I gaurantee you that your mostly mechanical fuel system upgrade wont be able to support much more power than a set-up like that would produce. You will need larger injectors at least. Start from there. Once you build the engine, everything else is upgradeable if you want more.
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this is turning funny real quick. look man. settle for something simple first. 15 psi is a big project, let alone 20 to 30 psi. and if you ever want to drive it on the street... yea not happening easily.
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what are you trying to tell me?
I will have it done no matter what. I have a couple guys that could help me out. I just need a list of parts that I should buy and they will work the rest. I'm not that great of a mechanic but I'm getting there.
i understand that there will be lots of work needed to succeed so wish me luck. I just need some tips from guys that have already done this before. I will search around and gather as much info as I can, but so far, you guys are the only ones I can turn to. I don't know anyone else that had experience in turbocharging a cavalier. Just tell me what I need, not how difficult it will be. I am willing to try and I won't give up until i succeed
LOL gt35 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you need to stop buying import tuner magazines, your turbo is fine, why dont you just use the turbo you have and make it fast, istead of putting a big turbo on and have boost lag and never comming close to running it to its potential.
dude. did you read all the posts? I mentioned that I am stepping down to a gt30r.
Read my mods and base your setup off of that for a starting point on what you figure you will need to make your car handle alot of boost. And I am not even built internally yet. That is just all the tuning and power adder stuff you will need. That right there in my mods is more than enough money that you would want to spend believe me. Just figure on having about 10k around to do what your planning . At least man. Maybe even more. lol
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Yeah what ya'll say is fine,
But Jack azz is back after he has play with his little WRX, what ? you want to call the cops on me again?
I should have sued your azz for misuse of law enforcement for accusations of terristics acts. Actually I still can sue your azz but your too much of a coward to face up to a man's responsibilty.
Oh, what's the worst you can do, get me kicked off the org again because of all the good sucking you do, oh please don't, not that!
Whatever jack azz, all my manz in Jacksonville tell me your a punk with all bark but no bite. You call your best friends at JPD and cry while you have STILL nothing on me.
If you misuse the law again on false accusations again I WILL SUE YOUR AZZ.
hey, thanks dragracemyz24. At least someone gives me something to look at to have an idea of what it would be like. I guess I don't have enough money yet but close enough. I hope it all won't cost beyond 10k but if it does, I have no choice.
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why don't you go complain somewhere else and not in my thread. You are not helping anyone in no way. completely off topic.
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Yeah what ya'll say is fine,
But Jack azz is back after he has play with his little WRX, what ? you want to call the cops on me again?
I should have sued your azz for misuse of law enforcement for accusations of terristics acts. Actually I still can sue your azz but your too much of a coward to face up to a man's responsibilty.
Oh, what's the worst you can do, get me kicked off the org again because of all the good sucking you do, oh please don't, not that!
Whatever jack azz, all my manz in Jacksonville tell me your a punk with all bark but no bite. You call your best friends at JPD and cry while you have STILL nothing on me.
If you misuse the law again on false accusations again I WILL SUE YOUR AZZ.
What? Your still all upset about that? dont steal people's posts. I called the police because you threatened that you were coming to jacksonville. I like to protect my family and don't want some crazed person showing up at my house and potentially threatening my fiance and child. It was up to my local PD, of which I have no relation, to contact your local PD to set you straight. Any "terroristic threat" terminology you were told was not said by me. And what manz you have in Jacksonville know about me? I generally keep to myself and a few of my close friends and don't borther with you or your manz. I don't know why you can't get over this. Go ahead a sue my azz all you want, your the one that was wrong and took things way out of proportion. Cosndier this my last post ever concerning this subject,
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