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SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Friday, November 04, 2005 2:14 AM
Hi Guys,

Heres the info on the 2.2 supercharger for the ecotec:

200hp, non-intercooled.

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Cheers, Paul.

Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Friday, November 04, 2005 2:48 AM
Sorry, you had to be a member to follow the above link... How do you post image attachments?!
Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Friday, November 04, 2005 7:23 AM
/me giggles at this



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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:21 AM



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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:44 AM
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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:46 AM
vxer wrote:Hi Guys,

Heres the info on the 2.2 supercharger for the ecotec:

200hp, non-intercooled.

< bottom of page >

Cheers, Paul.




hmm weak, the little M-45 did that with the 2.4's.
GM... GOSH!


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 7:27 AM
Quote:

/me giggles at this


/me giggles at u paying 4g's to put down 168hp and me picking up an lsj with supercharger and intercooler for less than it cost u to put in your msd
Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:26 AM
02 guys are screwed







Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:51 AM
Is it true the 2005 sunfire has an electronic throttle body?
Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:19 AM
what about the flash?


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:25 AM
200HP thats it? Airtonics but down 218WHP with his setup, and that doesnt have the reflash and was running like what, 8.5 PSI i think.


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:12 AM
i honstly think it's gonna be underrated....

gotta sell those cobalt ss's



but with a few bolt on's to go with it i think you would have 200some hp to the wheels



Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:14 AM
by the way any release date????



Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:32 AM
-JaysonZ24- wrote:200HP thats it? Airtonics but down 218WHP with his setup, and that doesnt have the reflash and was running like what, 8.5 PSI i think.


What, do you think they're going to put out a 250 hp kit and totally destroy their own sales of the Cobalt SS? What person in their right mind would buy an SS for $21K when they can buy a cav for anywhere from 6-10K and then put on the supercharger for another 2-3K and be WAY faster anyway?

Beyond the fact that this is CARB approved, and has room for growth since obviously you'll be able to up the boost (the stock SS pulley may even be an upgrade).

Personally I think its far more worth it to grab the setup off of an LSJ because then you've got the intercooler too... then just get the flash./




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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:00 AM
-JaysonZ24- wrote:200HP thats it? Airtonics but down 218WHP with his setup, and that doesnt have the reflash and was running like what, 8.5 PSI i think.


He is also running more boost that the GM kit will make with the stock pulley and he is intcercooled unlike the GM kit.


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:04 AM
so no workie on the 2002 ecotec?
Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:37 AM
Well in the GM ecotec build book, it stated that "some 2002 cars equipped with Delphi fuel injectors" if i remember right. So if you don't have those injectors, I don't see why you couldn't just swap them, unless there are other factors that weren't mentioned. Either way, the install instructions implied that 02's may work.


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:23 PM
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:
What, do you think they're going to put out a 250 hp kit and totally destroy their own sales of the Cobalt SS? What person in their right mind would buy an SS for $21K when they can buy a cav for anywhere from 6-10K and then put on the supercharger for another 2-3K and be WAY faster anyway?

Beyond the fact that this is CARB approved, and has room for growth since obviously you'll be able to up the boost (the stock SS pulley may even be an upgrade).

Personally I think its far more worth it to grab the setup off of an LSJ because then you've got the intercooler too... then just get the flash./


why not? Think about it, how many people know enough about cars to put a supercharger on it or even know that one exist? Its not gonna demolish sales if they release it. The tuner crowd, especially chevys 4 cylinder isnt very big. Yeah some people will buy a supercharger kit instead of a SS, but the majority of people will just buy the SS. The majority of the people who buy an SS now have no clue of the Ecotec supercharger for the 2.2L Hell if i had a choice right now between an SS or a Cavalier Ecotec Supercharged, id take the SS in a heart beat. They sold what, like 250 Supercharger kits for the Ld9, thats a very very very small percentage of cavaliers on the road. Granit the model year was limited to just 3 years, its still not very much.

I think Gm might honestly still be thinking of weather or not its worth it. Alot of the Ecotecs still have warranties, and if something breaks because of the supercharger, they will have to fix it. My guess is they are waiting for the warranties to expire before they release it.


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:50 PM
-JaysonZ24- wrote:200HP thats it? Airtonics but down 218WHP with his setup, and that doesnt have the reflash and was running like what, 8.5 PSI i think.


I was at 9.5 psi, stock ion redline pulley, stock exhaust and yes it's intercooled.

I'm unsure what size supercharger pulley will be on the GM kit when it's released, most likely larger than the one off the stock redline.

That doesn't mean you coudln't run a smaller pulley, but not having an intercooler won't help either. I'm glad I did my setup the way I did. Opposed to waiting for GM and I also have full control over my fuel/timing with the Emanage.


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:17 PM
^^where exactly did you find that setup from the ION?



Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:47 PM
GM doesn't deserve to sell a single damn kit after all the BS they have pulled regarding this for the last 3 years. My money is going to Hahn.


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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:10 AM
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I was at 9.5 psi, stock ion redline pulley, stock exhaust and yes it's intercooled.


GM are released what they call an 'extrude honed' exhaust manifold for the 2.2 engine - the ports have been widened up, this would probably help your setup a bit...

Quote:

Opposed to waiting for GM and I also have full control over my fuel/timing with the Emanage.


You might find that the reflash will get rid of the torque hole at 3000rpm which i noticed in your dyno graph...

Ta, Paul.
Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Sunday, November 06, 2005 1:11 PM
well if they wait for the warranty to run out if you bought 6 year warranty like i did i have screwed my self beyond belief i'll be 30 before i see that supercharger. It kind of makes me wish i would have waited and bought the saturn with the 2.4 or learn how to drive stick and bought the redline.
Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:27 PM
mrcivilservent wrote:well if they wait for the warranty to run out if you bought 6 year warranty like i did i have screwed my self beyond belief i'll be 30 before i see that supercharger. It kind of makes me wish i would have waited and bought the saturn with the 2.4 or learn how to drive stick and bought the redline.


i bought the extended warrenty and sold it back to the dealer ship after two years. i got like 600 bucks back. You might want to do the same thing.


-Jeff-




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Re: SEMA: info on ecotec 2.2 supercharger
Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:13 PM
but that only works if the loan has been payed off other wise the just take it off the loan. well i guess either way you get your money back but i would rather have it in hand than off payments
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