i wanna run 10 psi.....
i was lookin at 35lb injectors.....
my question is ......will the stock pump be able to handle that?
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No, but your stock internals probably won't handle that. Also, I don't think anyone makes injectors for the 2.2 ohv
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a 2.2 non eco auto is the slowest j body platform we have. My advise is to buy a cheap used Z or GT out of the classifieds. No offence but it really isn't worth it for you and it is not a good motor to boost unless its like Adlers. But that get expensive.
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dragracemyz24 wrote:a 2.2 non eco auto is the slowest j body platform we have. My advise is to buy a cheap used Z or GT out of the classifieds. No offence but it really isn't worth it for you and it is not a good motor to boost unless its like Adlers. But that get expensive.
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No, you won't be able to find injectors if you have the pre-98 2.2L. There have been some contraptions set up to convert to a useable platform, but that's about all you can do.
Don't listen to the Z24 punks, they think they're gods. There have been some haulin' auto 2.2s. It's been proven that the bottom end can hold good power, even though all the DOHC guys think it's 'weak' for some unexplained reason, and anyone with half a brain understands why an automatic tranny works great with a turbocharged car (of decent power).
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No, you won't be able to find injectors if you have the pre-98 2.2L. There have been some contraptions set up to convert to a useable platform, but that's about all you can do.
Don't listen to the Z24 punks, they think they're gods. There have been some haulin' auto 2.2s. It's been proven that the bottom end can hold good power, even though all the DOHC guys think it's 'weak' for some unexplained reason, and anyone with half a brain understands why an automatic tranny works great with a turbocharged car (of decent power).
with a name like OHVnotec, he's bound to know his @!#$.
2.4 guys seem to think their @!#$ cast aluminum pistons are made of 'stronger' material then 2.2's.. bahahaha
here's what it's going to take to run 10 psi through your 96 2.2 OHV. head work, a turbo kit, internals, either an EIC (boost sensative extra injector controller setup) or swapping a 2200 head and intake manifold on (the 98-02 2200s have support and ability to add larger injectors) or converting your fuel rail to support top feed injectors as opposed to the stock sidefeeds. Either way you are looking at lots of work. Thats why I'm just building a 2200 instead of my current 95 2.2.
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Check out
034efi.com for a secondary fuel injector controller. Using this system is pretty inexpensive compared to other methods. And the system only activates under boost, there for you don't have to tune for idle and vacuum and you just use the stock system under those conditions. You can pick up some injector bungs and just weld them into your charge pipe. Its kinda like running a wet nitrous kit without the nitrous part, but its a lot more programmable.
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Autos are the way to go for many reasons with a turbo. First of all the GM version of the isuzu mk7 5 speed sucks and will blow diffs like crazy, Secondly you can run a bigger turbo because it will stay boosting because you never let off the gas, and lastly you dont need to go out and buy a stage 3 clutch to hold the power just get an autotrans interceptor to increase the line pressure. A 2.2ohc has potential and its generally easy to work on compared to a 2.4 which makes it easy to do your own head work. Have fun i think it it definitally worth it as long as you do an extra injector setup.
wel the 2200 can run 10 psi safely ........ I have hit 10 psi with my car and I have larger injectors and an FMU ... no pump.....
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Yeah, you don't need new internals, and you defiantely don't need headwork. Any work done above the head gasket will simply increase power, but won't do anything for strength necessarily (I guess stainless steel valves would help in both categories, but still not close to necessary). Building the bottom end will increase your engine's ability to hold more power, but shouldn't be necessary for 10 psi. If anything, just have the crank cryoed or nitrided, and get the rods shotpeened. At 9.0:1 CR, you're fine for boost.
Tuning is what will determine how long your engine lasts. My bottom end showed no signs of fatigue after 9 psi, but the detonation from not having a decent fuel supply definately did some damage.
You have to remember though, you won't be happy with 10psi, you will want to TURN UP THE BOOST
That's when you start spending big bucks.
But for now, just bolt on the turbo 'kit', add an EIC (you will have to do some research to determine what injectors you would want to go with), and take it to a dyno with wideband capabilities and someone who can help you tune the EIC.
THERE IS NO REASON A 200+whp 2.2L can't be done without opening up the engine.
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aight thanx everyone.....i have a port and pollished head and im gettin the manifold ported....i have and FMU...FPR.....
so u guys r saying not to run bigger injectors .....but to get more of them....
purplhaze...is this wat ur talking about???? plz god say no
http://www.034efi.com/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=249
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Cavgold96 wrote:aight thanx everyone.....i have a port and pollished head and im gettin the manifold ported....i have and FMU...FPR.....
so u guys r saying not to run bigger injectors .....but to get more of them....
purplhaze...is this wat ur talking about???? plz god say no
http://www.034efi.com/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=249
yes that's it. Simple Digital Systems (http://www.sdsefi.com) also has an EIC kit that is pretty good. You don't have the option to run larger injectors on the 95-97 2.2 OHV cars, the injector feed style is different from any aftermarket injector. EIC is the only way to add more fuel unless you convert the fuel rail to support top feeds.
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Cavgold96 wrote:http://www.034efi.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=71
i think thats what u mean
right. all you need is an extra injector and controller. and then i'd go with an MSD DIS-II to control your timing as well.
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Aight well im gonna have Josh...aka MINION help me with the install
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so with that thing i can run 2 or 3 other injectors??
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yea but i definatly dont have another grand do dish out on fuel system
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Cavgold96 wrote:so with that thing i can run 2 or 3 other injectors??
2 extra injectors
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ok.....thnx for the help
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one more question.......
i heard u saying sumtin bout swappin for the 2200 head.....is that alot of work...does it just bolt up?
that head does handle bigger injectors
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Cavgold96 wrote:one more question.......
i heard u saying sumtin bout swappin for the 2200 head.....is that alot of work...does it just bolt up?
that head does handle bigger injectors
if you wanted to swap to the 2200 fuel system (which allows for larger injectors, you have to swap the intake manifold and fuel rail. in order to swap the intake manifold and fuel rail, you have to swap heads. it's basically a direct swap, except you have to use all the head internals for the 2200 valvetrain (i.e. valves, pushrods, rockers, everything inside the head, no 95-97 parts in the 2200 head work)
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ok so if i went to a junkyard got a 2200 head and manifold ...get a shop to port it out....it would bolt right up and i could use it??.....wat year(s) head would u reccomend for the 2200
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Cavgold96 wrote:ok so if i went to a junkyard got a 2200 head and manifold ...get a shop to port it out....it would bolt right up and i could use it??.....wat year(s) head would u reccomend for the 2200
1998-2002... all the 2200
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I have never heard of anyone successfully doing a 2.2 to 2200 head swap. I am not saying that it is impossible to do, just that I have never heard/seen it done before. Someone in a another forum said that a shop tried to do that head swap on his 2.2, but something didnt not work out correctly. I cannot exactly remember what it was, but he might have bent some valves.
If you want to try the swap, make sure to get all of the coolant hoses from the 2200 motor. The coolant lines are ran differently on the 2200s. The 2.2s and the 2200s also use different headgaskets.
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