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cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:19 AM
frank i wasn't going to say anything but i call

yOU KNOW WHAT YOUR KITS SUCK

I BOUGHT AN INTERCOOLER KIT HE TOLD ME WOULD FIT THE RSM SUPERCHARGER............ WRONG

NOT TO MENTION HE CAN'T PUT ON TOGETHER HIM SELF NORE IS IT BOLT IN AND PERFECT NO INSTRUCTIONS ARE INCLUDED ON ANY OF HIS KITS INCLUDING THE INTERCOOLER KIT THAT I BOUGHT FROM HIM

I SPENT 800 BUCKS ON A KIT FILLED WITH GENERIC PARTS AFTER HE TOLD ME THAT THIS THING WAS FOR MY CAR I LAUGHED...... THE COUPLERS DONT FIT ON TO CORE THAT HE SENT ME.... AND I HAVE TO PROVIDE PARTS MY SELF TO FINISH THIS INSTALLATION AND IT PROLLY GONNA COST ME ANOTHER 100 BUCKS to 250

FRANK ITS TIME YOU GET FLAMED FOR THIS CAUSE YOUR KITS SUCK A$$ AND MY INTERCOOLER KIT DOES REQUIRE MULTIPLE TRIPS THE AUTO PARTS STORE

I DON'T CARE IF NOW YOUR NOT GOING TO SEND ME THE PARTS THAT I NEEDED NOW FINE GO F YOURSELF FRANK YOU WERE ONLY GOING TO SEND ME THE COUPLERS ANYWAY

YOUR KITS ARE GARBAGE... you don't have any pics of one installed....all you have are pics of it on the ground in your garage on your website.. your telling me that you only make 50 bucks on kits like mine i am gonna call on that too

that intercooler you can buy for like 200 on ebay, the blow off valve you can buy for like 100 new on ebay,
and 6 long elbows, 16 couplers, one corner elbow and a pipe that is 1 1/2in i am gonna say another 200 whole sale
your making more like 300

not to mention where do i put that pipe that is 1in smaller in hahaha why am i going to bottle neck my supercharger with a pipe that is a full inch smaller than everything else

and when i came to the conclusion that it is near impossible to install this intercooler oon the rsm supercharger you refused to give me a full refund.... @!#$ you frank telling me i gotta take a hit of 25% on restocking fees hahahaha thats like giving you a free 200 dollars so that you can resale this horrible kit to another unsuspecting person like me...........

now frank is going to tell you that i didn't ask all the right questions what is there to ask he said the kit was complete and bolt right in......... wrong complete means there are directions, complete means i don't have to buy anymore parts to finish it. complete means that the couplers that come with it fit the intercooler core.

COMPLETE DEF MEANS THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE INCLUDED TO MOUNT THE INTERCOOLER CORE INSTEAD OF JUST BOLTS ON THE CORE IT SELF.... I STILL NEED TO GO TO THE STORE BUT BOLTS AND FASHION SOME SORT OF U BRACKETS TO PUT INSTALL THE CORE.

why dont you fix that garbage webpage of yours to say we sell uncomplete kits and they do not include the following...... directions, right size couplers, a number of extra parts may be left over and a number ofother parts may need to be purchased sepratly including PURCHASING mounting hardware for the intercooler

and you sponsered cavalier extreme guys you guys suck too for a tiny 10% off you are this guys maskots telling everyone his kits are great...... i wouldn't get sponsered by this guy unless he actually sponsered me and not just some bull@!#$ 10% off a garbage selection.........i can peice together a better tubo kit with my moms vacuum

now i am not going to completely trash frank he is a nice guy...... but when it comes to him being wrong he is so defensive that nothing really gets done about it other than him telling you he will send you more parts..... mean time i have had this intercooler sitting in my apartment FOR OVER A MONTH cause i can't put it in with out all the extra parts that you wont supply me with in any time orderly fashion
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LEO at cavalierconnection.............

I want to thank you for all the emails it is helping me complete this kit that i have to design my self...

Leo is a respectable bussiness man that wants to help me. he hasn't made any money off of me and has helped me way more than frank exspecially since frank didn't help me at all. me and leo have been exchanged emails for about a month now he has given me a number of idea's and ways to try and peice this thing together including pictures of his intercooler kits *installed* they do bolt right in and even tho that are a little different than what i would n eed for my rsm supercharger i would be able to buy one or two more pipes and be done

i wish i considered him... but frank jumped on it and emailed me telling me that his kits will fit my supercharger... which i now know is bs

everyone leo is the man to consider for your boost job he is knowagable and even tho his kits are a little more expensive it's well worth it to have good customer assistance and a good well working product than to have a shoty product and horrible customer assistance like franks cavalier extreme

cavalier connection is the way to go for your boosting needs




Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:28 AM
That sux.

That's what happens when someone tries to get rich overnight...



Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:51 AM
that intercooler you can buy for like 200 on ebay, the blow off valve you can buy for like 100 new on ebay,
and 6 long elbows, 16 couplers, one corner elbow and a pipe that is 1 1/2in i am gonna say another 200 whole sale
your making more like 300


so why didnt you buy the parts and do it? There is no aftermarket kit that will fit a vortech because they arent designed to use intercoolers. Anything you do is going to be custom



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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:34 AM
my RSM kit is intercooled. There's some wicked bends, but it works great. The IC is from JRC.



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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:42 AM
rodimprime because he said it will fit my kit... i didn't want to have to peice together an intercooler... but that is what i have to do anyway



Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:46 AM
and no it isn't that it isn't designed to use one as much as it hasn't really been done that mike is the only guy that i know on the org that has done one

remember prime the only differance between a centrifgul vortech and a turbo is the vortech uses a pulley to spin it and a turbo uses exhuast gases........ these superchargers need to be intercooler i don't know about anyone else on the org but mine gets heat soaked really badlyin my opinion much worse than the gm eaton type blower from what i have seen with my friends supercharged z24.....



Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:29 AM
when that guy said it will work on a RSM set up why didnt u ask him to show u pictures.

Also maybe he was selling a custom do it yourself intercooler set up saying it could work with the rsm s/c .




Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:01 AM
that was exacaly what he said but he said it will bolt right up

so i figured ok he said that they didn't have any pictures yet



Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:16 AM
honestly, if you want things done right you have to do it yourself.

I dont know why half you people think its any friggin' easier to buy a 'kit' then to fab one up yourself.

Sounds like you're doing that anyway!

It would have cost you less in raw material and welding to do on your own then to have some dude paint up a few mandrel bends and call it a kit.

You got suckered in. Suck it up


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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:19 AM
well they are all polished pipes but the fact is he said it will fit and it doesn't and its missing things to install it

so i am celling for a ban on cavextreme

and yes i am having to fab it up my self anyway



Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:55 AM
Were the pipes custom bent at all? Or did they look like this intercooler pipes
Notice the winner of that auction. A quick look though his e-bay feedback and youll find most of the part to his "extreme" turbo kits. feedback from sellers

Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:00 AM
cavalier connection is the way to go.. Leo knows best


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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:18 AM
they were pipes like that and three different shaped pipes 1 elbow one small 1 1/2 pipe and one piipe for the blow off...

hey look frank 135 bucks for those pipes shipped now those three other pipes maybe 50 60- bucks at most whole sale 100 bucks for the greddy type s blow off, and the intercooler 200 bucks

damn dude you doubled your money on me


your a F'in ripe off





Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:22 AM
ahahahahahahaaa

this post is to funny


dude , your way outta line

1st off , had you done reaserch you would know for the rsm s/c (no matter the motor) doing a intercooler is going to be a custom FAB JOB !!!!!!

granted , being pissed at him for saying it will fit , when your research would have told you it didnt , i can partially understand , but you need to be pissed at your self also


so to me this is more on you than it is on him


a turbo , and the rsm s/c dont even sit the same , and are no where near the same size , so even using a turbo kit for your s/c is going to REQUIRE FAB WORK


you can be pissed at him if you want , but you gotta be pissed at your self also !!!!!!!!!!!



and the only 1 that needs a ban right now is you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:33 AM
I agree that cavyextreme kits may not be the best on the market, they are not test fitted on each different application, there may need to be a few trips to the parts store and you will need to have a downpipe made but you get what you pay for the kits are cheap.






Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:33 AM
[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM cav sedan™)]ahahahahahahaaa

this post is to funny


dude , your way outta line

1st off , had you done reaserch you would know for the rsm s/c (no matter the motor) doing a intercooler is going to be a custom FAB JOB !!!!!!

granted , being pissed at him for saying it will fit , when your research would have told you it didnt , i can partially understand , but you need to be pissed at your self also


so to me this is more on you than it is on him


a turbo , and the rsm s/c dont even sit the same , and are no where near the same size , so even using a turbo kit for your s/c is going to REQUIRE FAB WORK


you can be pissed at him if you want , but you gotta be pissed at your self also !!!!!!!!!!!



and the only 1 that needs a ban right now is you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


^^^ agreed maybe a lil more research on your part will no make the same mistakes again.






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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:37 AM
Quote:

1st off , had you done reaserch you would know for the rsm s/c (no matter the motor) doing a intercooler is going to be a custom FAB JOB !!!!!!


Maybe you dont understand how a buisness works. The customer (sinrocker) pays the buisness (cav extreme) to do the custom work. I think $800 would cover the cost of a custom intercooler setup. Expecially since its a $130 intercooler. What did frank do to earn the $500 profit.....

Seems like your saying its ok for a customer to get ripped off? Your an idiot if you blame the customer because cav extrme lied about there product. Hes trying to keep other jbo members from gettin ripped off.
Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:52 AM
tmnt328 wrote:
Quote:

1st off , had you done reaserch you would know for the rsm s/c (no matter the motor) doing a intercooler is going to be a custom FAB JOB !!!!!!


Maybe you dont understand how a buisness works. The customer (sinrocker) pays the buisness (cav extreme) to do the custom work. I think $800 would cover the cost of a custom intercooler setup. Expecially since its a $130 intercooler. What did frank do to earn the $500 profit.....

Seems like your saying its ok for a customer to get ripped off? Your an idiot if you blame the customer because cav extrme lied about there product. Hes trying to keep other jbo members from gettin ripped off.


had he done the reasearch , he would know that NO ONE makes kit for the rsm s/c


he is as much to blame for this as the company is







Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:00 AM
Oh man, I saw these types of posts about cav xtereme coming the first day he ever posted about his "kits". LMAO.







Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:02 AM
^ ^ ^ True. maybe he should have done some research, but when your hearing people say its not a direct fit, and then the company telling you it is it makes it harder to come to a conclusion.
However i agree tmnt328. most people will buy a kit because the work has been done for them, why should i pay all that money if its not what its advertised as.
Sorry to hear about your intercooler kit, thanx for the heads up tho.




Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:12 AM
I DID DO THE REASEARCH THE GUY SAID THEY HAD KITS FOR MY CENTRIFIGUL SUPERCHARGER

and as far as i knew no one made them

it started with a thread asking for pictures because i wasn't sure about how i should route piping

frank emailed me telling me he had a kit for my application....

i said to my self i can sit around peicing it together or i can buy this kit that at that he said would work.......

if you are telling me i didn't do the research then your wrong i did......

at anyrate we are getting off topic how about we focus on the fact that frank from cavalier extreme is a bs artist, and will do anything to make a sale. on top of the fact that his kits that he says are complete and have been test fitted have never been test fitted. to stay away from acavalier extreme is my suggestion

I WAS SUGGESTING DOING YOUR BUSSINESS WITH CAVALIER CONNECTION
because leo over there has been with me every step of the way helping me out even tho he has not directly earned a penny from me. he is knowagable... and willing to help anyone with a problem... i would imagine he has great after sale support and before sale support being that he has helped me with out expecting a sale or having a sale from.





Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:12 AM
whats so hard about understanding that NO ONE MAKES A INTERCOOLER KIT FOR THE RSM S/C ????


yes he should have been told fab work woulda been required , but he also should have known that


as far as the money goes , just cause ebay is 1 price doesnt mean , thats what companies get them for







Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:17 AM
You REALLY need to stop taking hits at our company and lying to my potential customers, Mike. It's really starting to tick me off, but I'm going to try and stand my ground professionally here...

You were the first person to purchase an intercooler kit from me. You never told me that you needed instructions, and you never ASKED me if they had instructions. In no way was I deceptive to you.

You later contacted me (nearly a month later) and told me you wanted a refund. View this page:

Cavalier Extreme - About Us

If you view the return policy, it clearly states that you cannot return a product after 14 days. If you had such a problem with it, why didn't you tell me the first week you received it? That's my question to you, sir.

However, even though you couldn't return it weeks past when you were suppose to, I offered to send you the proper couplers that you wanted for the intercooler. That was discussed via AIM.

You should stop lying about my company and start telling what I DID do for you.




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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:21 AM
tmnt328 wrote:
Quote:

1st off , had you done reaserch you would know for the rsm s/c (no matter the motor) doing a intercooler is going to be a custom FAB JOB !!!!!!


Maybe you dont understand how a buisness works. The customer (sinrocker) pays the buisness (cav extreme) to do the custom work. I think $800 would cover the cost of a custom intercooler setup. Expecially since its a $130 intercooler. What did frank do to earn the $500 profit.....

Seems like your saying its ok for a customer to get ripped off? Your an idiot if you blame the customer because cav extrme lied about there product. Hes trying to keep other jbo members from gettin ripped off.


Intercooler - $250
Piping with welding - $300
Blow Off Valve - $100
Shipping - $50

That's about a profit of $100, which isn't even worth it. I don't see $500 profit there.




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Re: cavalier extreme garbage.
Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:50 AM
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE RETURN ANYMORE I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THESE KITS INCLUDE

TRIPS TO THE HARDWARE STORE
A NON KNOWLEGABLE SALESMEN
I TOLD YOU TO STOP F'ING ME
WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER ATLEAST ONCE A WEEK YOU KNEW AS SOON AS I GOT IT THAT I KNEW THIS KIT WAS BS AND THAT IT WOULDN'T FIT THE APPLICATION YOU TOLD ME IT WOULD.

YOU KNOW THERE IS A LAW CALLED WARRENTEE OF MERCHANT
IT SAYS A PRODUCT MUST SERVE IT'S PURPOSE, AND IF IT DOESN'T IT ALLOWS ME TO SUE FOR THE MISSING PARTS OR DAMAGES... WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO SUPPLY ME WITH EVERYTHING TO MAKE THIS SERVE IT'S PURPOSE(thanks to bussiness law)

FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE THAT DONT KNOW THIS LAW IT IS AN IMPLIED WARRENTEE. BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT THE ITEM BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSE TO SERVE IT'S PURPOSE.



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