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Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:44 PM
We, i'm proud to say that after 8 months of work and thousands of dollars the fully built 2.4L is finally done and in the breakin period. After the devistating explosion that the previous motor went thru (snapped a stock rod) i hope for a different fate for this motor. To my knowledge nobody has EVER built a 2.4L as muchs as we did. That fact alone kinda scares me. Breaking new ground here.... But when we get it all tuned and running good it should be capable of close to 500 WHP... With help from mike karas and a few other guys before me i think we did all we could. Now i just have to keep from blowing it up (knock on wood).

To date i beleive it is the first show cavalier with a fully built motor. Should make the car fun to drive (i have not driven it in many months).






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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:55 PM
karo's 2.4 put down 240 to the wheels n/a and 350 on a 75 shot

so i wouldnt say yours is the first built 2.4 show car , karos is pretty


there is other built 2.4's out there also


so to the point , this thread is useless with out pics , LOL


good job on the break in and hope to see some nice times from you







Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:56 PM
Nice. Lets hope no rod comes through the oil pan this time. Congrats
Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:08 PM
I would post pictures but they wouldn't be much different from the old pictures since 95% of the work was internal... But you can see pics at http://www.streetsourcemag.com/projectz/




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:09 PM
I cant wait, I will be highly anticipating updates and videos



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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:11 PM
[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM cav sedan™)]karo's 2.4 put down 240 to the wheels n/a and 350 on a 75 shot

so i wouldnt say yours is the first built 2.4 show car , karos is pretty


there is other built 2.4's out there also


so to the point , this thread is useless with out pics , LOL


good job on the break in and hope to see some nice times from you

I am curious to know if my assumption that mike karas's 2.4 that put down like 420 WHP is still the highest WHP achieved on the dyno for a 2.4L




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:15 PM
Based on what the engine builder says... on 5 PSI it is probably putting down close to 300 HP... All i know is the new motor doesn't have a hard time breathing... The custom billet race cams have so much lift it lopes like a built V8.... So i'm sure 5 PSI is creating a @!#$ ton of CFM....




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:48 PM
I get mine back tomorra and my break in period begins too
Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:52 PM
sdsgt wrote:I get mine back tomorra and my break in period begins too


what is done to yours?




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:23 PM
i think mikes is still 1 of , if not the highest on boost

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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:26 PM
Sounds sweet... Any more specs on the motor or cams? I finally got 400mi. on mine so I'll be going to the dyno Tues. evening to see how it's doing now...

G/M supercharger
.020 over bore Wiseco forged 9:1comp.
Pauter rods
Clevite bearings
Balance shafts removed 2.3 oil pump conversion
Full port and polish on the head new Stainless intake and exhaust valves
2.3 cam (secret cams) swap
Full balance on rotating assembly and RK Alum. Flywheel
Still running the S/C with a 62mm throttle body
RC 320 injectors
Cartech FMU
SAFC
ARP Head and Main Studs

Swapped Third and Fourth gears from a 2.2 trans. into the 2.4 Isuzu 5 spd.
Quaife LSD
Spec stage 3 clutch
Stage 2 axles

Keep us updated on what you run. Should be pretty good...






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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:04 PM
I believe Johnny Mack had a pretty good built engins but cant remember what it was pulling on the dyno. I'm sure it was well over 300hp but I would be curious to see what his final results were.




Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:35 AM
Good luck, until you get soem numbers that will be the key.



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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:20 AM
I just want to know what you have done that no one has ever done before.


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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:35 AM
Skilz10179 wrote:I just want to know what you have done that no one has ever done before.


I was just going to mention you and your motor, Skilz. Yours is pretty beefy if I must say so..









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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:23 AM
Skilz10179 wrote:I just want to know what you have done that no one has ever done before.

Skilz what cams are you using. he has listed special billet cams. He states a big lope which might not be a goos thing depending on his specs on these cams he is running.



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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:58 AM
John Higgins wrote:
Skilz what cams are you using. he has listed special billet cams. He states a big lope which might not be a goos thing depending on his specs on these cams he is running.


I am using 2.3 HO cams modified by Miller Performance, my engine also sounds very lopey. I have no dyno numbers yet either but my motor flows enough air that i couldn't build over 6psi on a T3 Super 60 about 5000rpm.



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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:26 AM
Skilz10179 wrote:
John Higgins wrote:
Skilz what cams are you using. he has listed special billet cams. He states a big lope which might not be a goos thing depending on his specs on these cams he is running.


I am using 2.3 HO cams modified by Miller Performance, my engine also sounds very lopey. I have no dyno numbers yet either but my motor flows enough air that i couldn't build over 6psi on a T3 Super 60 about 5000rpm.


Got to love a auto with cams, they sound soo lopey. the Reaper was the same way with Mantapart sport cams.

I see the cams being the main difference between yours and his, but at the same time you have swap to a 2.3 oiling system etc.. Unless he is not telling all.



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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:26 AM
I also have the oil pump conversion. The cams are custom from Elgin Camshafts. Not a regrind but complete custom. The head is completely ported/polished/flow tested. Fully balanced/blueprinted.

Just drove it for the first time on 2 PSI of boost and it pulls as hard as it did last year on 5-7 PSI.... Actually working on it right now cause we blew an o-ring in the fuel rail cause the fuel pressure was too high. Should have it fixed in a few minutes....




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:26 AM
done what no one else has done? right... ur not the only one with money kris. Many others on this board have sunk thousands into engines 2.


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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:32 AM
i'm not saying i have more money, that has nothing to do with it... I very well could be wrong... others may have done what i have... but i don't know any... feel free to correct me if i am wrong... This is not an ego thing... wanting to share information here....The custom cams that were made to my specs had to include machining the cam towers down and getting custom valves to make up for it. As well as custom over sized lfters. These cams were very well researched with everything in mind from rpm all the way too boost!




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:40 AM
Kris, you never answered my question.


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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:50 AM
Skilz10179 wrote:Kris, you never answered my question.


What question did i not answer?




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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:00 PM
Kris Bloom wrote:
Skilz10179 wrote:Kris, you never answered my question.


What question did i not answer?


Skilz10179 wrote:I just want to know what you have done that no one has ever done before.



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Re: Full race built 2.4 finally done
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:07 PM
I was under the ( possibly mistaken) asumption that no one has every had a custom set of cams made. And were not talking about a regrind out of 2.3 cams. They couldnt regrind or weld up to re-grind enough to get the lift that we needed/wanted. As well as all the work that had to be done to get the cams to work and everything to the right specs.




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