Ok i am just trying to make some room in my engine bay for all the goodies i have put on the car...
Firstly, I am trying to make some room by the firewall for my tubo and such, and just wondered what a few of theses things are back here and if i can get rid of them or just re-route them.
Firstly, the heater hoses coming out of the firewall, they come out right at my turbo compressor. There is JUST enough slack for them to bend uncomfortably and rest directly on the compressor housing. I dont know how hot the compressor housing gets, I would assume the cold air flow would keep it cool, but then again the exhaust runs thru the same turbo just 4 inches away.... and i know heat travels... So i am just worried about the health and logevity of these hoses resting RIGHT on the turbo. I was thinking it wouldnt be too hard to route them around the turbo, but the one worrysome part is this odd little plastic H connector that connects both heater hoses together. I thought it was a bypass, for when the heater is off, the coolant can bypass the heater core... but the H isnt connected to anything but the heater hoses... So i dont know how it can be a bypass if it never knows when to bypass. If i could take that out, life would be alot simpler. but would like to know what it is before i go removing it.
Also just wondering if anyone knows the actual coolant path... the one hose goes right into the neck on the head... the other hose goes right to the water pump... Is there a reason these hoses are run in the funky way they are? Cant i just get some new hose and run them both individually to their destinations around the turbo....
does anyone make a hose 90 elbow for things like this? so i can angle the hoses away from the turbo as soon as the leave the firewall? I would assume this would be an autozone "help" item or something... but i never really looked for them before.
Ok, next... What about the Power Brake boosters hard vacuum line... This also runs in some awkward way around the engine bay, just to go to the throttle body... Cant i just get rid of this all together, and just use a large vaccuum line and run it straight from the boster to the throttlebody... or if a hose is a bad idea, how about making a new hard line and a more direct route between the TB and Brake booster.
And lastly, how about the coolant overflow tank... does this need to be right here? Does it have to be that size? Can i just make up or purchase a smaller less ugly and obtrusive tank, and put it a lil more out of the way. What are all the lines going in and out of it and how many of them do you actually need, and which can i do away with?
And i guess one last thing... Battery... what are peoples thoughts on mounting the battery in the trunk of the car. As long as it is in a box, and you use proper cables, is there a problem with this?
T connector on heater hoses
Vaccuum line for Brake
Coolant overflow tnak
The only thing that comes to mind is getting rid of completly the metal brake booster vaccum line. If you are careful you could prolly bend the oil dipstick tube a litle too.
Maybe you could try a 90degree elbow right at the firewall to move the heater hoses away. I have seen them at Menards.
That is exactly what I did with my vaccum line just used a long peice of vaccum line. You don't need a hard line. I would not reccomend getting rid vaccum line all together and not having the power brakes.
FORGET GIRLS GONE WILD WE HAVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING GONE WILD!
Hard line was cut off by the front of the block and a hose connected to it to go to the TB.
Uses a couple of booster hoses connected together with a heater hose coupling. Never had any issues with it either way.
mitdr774 wrote:
is that a supercharger and a wastegate i see?
oh yeah..... and what is this goofy metal line that goes from the filler neck to the (i think) overflow tank.. Do i need this? it doesnt fit with my wastegate there... can i get rid of this? or can i replce it with rubber hose and route it differently?
and still hoping someone can tell me what this odd H coupler in the heater hose is...
its a bypass, helps "baffle" the coolant.... its not needed.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
what would/could/should/might happen if it is removed?
like what is it baffling the coolant from?
Would be ALOT easier to run the lines if they werent tied together with that thing.
I bent mine to go around the the WG. Thats right you see your WG sitting back there.
mitdr774 wrote:I bent mine to go around the the WG. Thats right you see your WG sitting back there.
was that from your one night of twin-charging?
oh and i just need to ask.... what the hell does your signiture mean?
It sure was. Well technicaly before that night.
It was from a thread where there were a whole lot of "JDM" angle shots of Cav's and Jay made that statement. I found it quite amusing.
I thought that wastegate looked familiar....
and by the way.... what is with the crazy ass welding and putty to cover it up???
i had to hack off the wastegate section as it didnt clear my AC lines... so i am plugging that up, and going to run it down closer to the subframe and Y it in just before it ties into the exhaust. But when i got to seeing how you did things i was a lil confused.... figure you must have just been in a hurrry. But i am trying to clean things up a bit...
oh, where can i get gaskets for this stuff? the turbo to mani gasket is ok... but the wastegate gaskets are SHOT.
.. you can run your own coolant lines..... remove the two that are connected together.
all your questions..... if you remove them the flux capacitor will fail, and your 2.4 will become a 2.3 with the time warp and all......
come on. do you need it removed or not? if so do it. nothing will happen. its baffling the coolant from its self, it keeps it quieter so grandma wont complain. (ya i know, its a cavalier... not really the quietest on the road.)
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
the liner for my welder pooped out on me, and I was basicly teaching myself how to weld. The "putty" is actualy metal epoxy and it was only done to make sure I had no leaks at that weld. I dont think it was needed at all but I didnt want to have to worry about some small hole causing a leak. The epoxy should only be on the BOV connection and no where else. The WG to DP was a complete rush/after thought just to get the car quieter. I was never really happy with it and had plans to redo all of it, just never got around to it. I didnt have AC in my car so the lines were never a thought. The gaskets for teh WG are just standard gaskets I assume. They came with the WG from TiAL. Im sure they can be found fairly easily online. like I said I had planned on redoing a lot of it so that it would be much cleaner, just never got that far. Still need to get a new liner for the welder, so things still turn out not so great.
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mitdr774 wrote:the liner for my welder pooped out on me, and I was basicly teaching myself how to weld. The "putty" is actualy metal epoxy and it was only done to make sure I had no leaks at that weld. I dont think it was needed at all but I didnt want to have to worry about some small hole causing a leak. The epoxy should only be on the BOV connection and no where else. The WG to DP was a complete rush/after thought just to get the car quieter. I was never really happy with it and had plans to redo all of it, just never got around to it. I didnt have AC in my car so the lines were never a thought. The gaskets for teh WG are just standard gaskets I assume. They came with the WG from TiAL. Im sure they can be found fairly easily online. like I said I had planned on redoing a lot of it so that it would be much cleaner, just never got that far. Still need to get a new liner for the welder, so things still turn out not so great.
make the car quieter?? what did you originally have the WG vented right into the atmosphere??
i have the eco but still re-routed my coolant lines. i found 2 brass 90 degree elbows and rerouted them off the firewall and the coolant line to the block. worked fine for me.
FOr the wastegate gaskets look up a guy on ebay called MC-Motorsports or something like that, he sells very well made copper wastegate gaskets and other gasket flanges. HTey are very good quailty and a good price like under 15 dollars shipped.
