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174whp wtf?
Monday, October 09, 2006 11:22 PM
Ok, so I've posted this before, but what happened a couple weekends ago kinda clashes with it. How can I have 174whp if I can keep side by side with a stock gtp?? and barely get pulled on by a cobalt ss/sc? im confused lol....



2000 Camaro V6.
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Re: 174whp wtf?
Monday, October 09, 2006 11:33 PM
Torque? Or perhaps you got a bad dyno run?



Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:11 AM
Also consider power to weight ratio, cobalts are pushing 3000 lbs.....the GTPs are more then that....




Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:31 AM
As stated torque, weight. I can run with a stock GTP as well and I'm less power than you. Also heat of the day of the dyno, type of dyno. All factors.



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Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:38 AM
I can beat stock gtps with just the mods i have lol...... there not that fast considering most will run high 14s to low 15s



Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:50 AM
Mat didnt you dyno on a Mustang dyno? That could very well have something to do with it..
Now looking at Aarons(phlatcavs) dyno maybe the dude didnt drive it right.. Maybe he cut it short.. Do you remember how he drove the car? Did he short shift any?











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Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:58 AM
nah dude didnt short shift at all....he went all the way till i told him to, 6300.....this is all coming back to the tuning....i really dont think that f*cking dealership did it right....if at all...



2000 Camaro V6.
| SLP Loudmouth | CAI Intake | HID's |


Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:29 PM
dyno numbers only mean so much .... a buddy of mine dynoed his N/A RSX at 175whp and only 130lbs/tq and runs low 14's all day long and keeps up to Skylines no problem on the street... you can only go by dyno numbers so much



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blue car (R.I.P) - 240whp @7psi..
silver car - 305whp 315lbs.tq @15psi (91 Octane) or 420whp & 425lbs.TQ @20psi (94 octane+Alcohol Injection)
All dynos run on a Mustang dyno
Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:35 PM
gearing weight rev limits and speeds etc etc


-Borsty
Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:38 PM
WHITECAVY wrote:Mat didnt you dyno on a Mustang dyno? That could very well have something to do with it..
Now looking at Aarons(phlatcavs) dyno maybe the dude didnt drive it right.. Maybe he cut it short.. Do you remember how he drove the car? Did he short shift any?

im going with the mustang dyno.



Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:42 PM
you sure your running GTPs? I just ran a brand new GP rental car deffinately not a GTP and it was pretty much even. 03 eco with header intake and catback.


-Chris


Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:28 PM
IamRascal wrote:you sure your running GTPs? I just ran a brand new GP rental car deffinately not a GTP and it was pretty much even. 03 eco with header intake and catback.


you were also no where near 175whp



The First Twin Charged jbody
blue car (R.I.P) - 240whp @7psi..
silver car - 305whp 315lbs.tq @15psi (91 Octane) or 420whp & 425lbs.TQ @20psi (94 octane+Alcohol Injection)
All dynos run on a Mustang dyno
Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:43 PM
Whinin(BLWN Z24) wrote:Ok, so I've posted this before, but what happened a couple weekends ago kinda clashes with it. How can I have 174whp if I can keep side by side with a stock gtp?? and barely get pulled on by a cobalt ss/sc? im confused lol....


GTP's and SS's aren't very fast, they run high 14's, which is what 178whp in a cav should get you. Still confused?


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Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:25 PM
ok well then if im only making 174whp why are people making around 195whp with just the charger???? and with hptuners they are making what, like 220whp? im still confused lol...



2000 Camaro V6.
| SLP Loudmouth | CAI Intake | HID's |


Re: 174whp wtf?
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:39 PM
i made 207 whp and 197wtq with these mods but i have to fix the alky as it wasnt working and get it tuned

GM Supercharger
Embree Machine 6 and 8psi pulley (8 currently installed)
Custom aluminum crankpulley from Apex Modified
RK Sport Upper Engine Mount Insert
RK Sport Lower Engine Mount
Custom Intake on Supercharger
RSM 62mm TB(measured at 61.4mm)
RK Sport spark plug springs
Stans brand header
Stans 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust
Magnaflow muffler and 3.5" Magnaflow tip
Spec Stage 3 clutch
Spec Aluminum Flywheel
cooling mist alcohol injection





Re: 174whp wtf?
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:47 AM
Was it a Mustang dyno. The only dyno near me is a Mustang dyno. The operator told me that from other peoples actaul dyno results that a Mustang dyno is 10% lower than a common Dynojet. When I was out of town I dynoed at 214whp on Dynojet style dyno. If I figure a 10% loss I would dyno at 193 whp. Dyno results are just a ballpark figure. It is just stupid that dyno manufactures can not decide exactly how much a HP is and how to measure it. I think 1/4 mile times are far more valuble.


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Re: 174whp wtf?
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:45 AM
^^Yup, it was a mustang dyno.











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Re: 174whp wtf?
Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:22 AM
so should a cavalier with hahn stage 2 beat a cobalt SS?
Re: 174whp wtf?
Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:49 AM
^ I have the Hahn Stage 2... I have beat colbalt SS and SRT 4's and im at 11psi!!!!

Back on topic... Yea it was a mustang dyno.



2004 Turbo cavalier 11PSI and blown!
Re: 174whp wtf?
Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:33 AM
im at 9 psi...
Re: 174whp wtf?
Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:18 PM
that still only puts me around 192whp.....

im still confused but whatever....once i get some $$$ and get hptuners i should be able to make it up



2000 Camaro V6.
| SLP Loudmouth | CAI Intake | HID's |



Re: 174whp wtf?
Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:22 PM
ALKY INJECTION best move to make.


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Re: 174whp wtf?
Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:14 PM
i have the coolingmist meth kit, although its not as good as alky it still works....



2000 Camaro V6.
| SLP Loudmouth | CAI Intake | HID's |


Re: 174whp wtf?
Friday, October 13, 2006 12:54 PM
Whinin(BLWN Z24) wrote:i have the coolingmist meth kit, although its not as good as alky it still works....







- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
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Re: 174whp wtf?
Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:22 AM
oh boy!




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