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streaker1369's new intake tube
Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:45 PM
Heres a quick rundown of how Frank and I whipped up a custom intake tube for his Cavalier.
Write up by Nigel
Photos by Frank and Nigel



After installation of his GM supercharger Frank was running a combination of his old AEM intake tube and a length of black flexible intake ducting, wrapped around the battery in a decidedly unappealing manner.


To the best of our knowledge there isn’t an intake tube available for J-bodys running the GM supercharger. And even if there was, with the battery located where it is, there’s hardly room for any sort of proper intake ducting for even a naturally aspirated motor (in this writer’s opinion), much less one under boost. Which left us with only one real option (and generally my favorite one): build our own.
I suppose aluminum would be the ideal material for an intake tube, as it’s lighter and much softer than steel (which makes the finishing work MUCH easier). But as we had plenty of tubing leftover from building the exhaust system, and we weren’t in possession of a TIG welder, we decided mild steel was our best bet.

First things first... that battery had to go.

We discussed relocating it to the trunk; which is certainly a viable option. However we didn’t think the effort was worth it in this case, especially since we didn’t have a battery box or roll of battery cable lying around. It looked like we would be able to slide the battery tray toward the firewall far enough to give us the clearance we needed.
Nothing is ever as easy as it seems.

Drilling out the seven spot-welds that held the battery tray down turned out to be about a half-hour’s worth of drilling, prying, and grunting. Once it was out it still had to be straightened back out. The area under the battery tray was unpainted from the factory, so before continuing we sprayed it red to match the rest of the engine compartment.


The plan was to relocate the battery tray far enough back along the frame rail for our new intake tube to have a straight shot at the fenderwell opening. When we started test-fitting we discovered that the shift linkage took up a lot of the room we wanted to use for the tray. It’s possible that cars equipped with an automatic transaxle wouldn’t have this problem, but for Frank’s 5-speed Cavalier we would have to come up with something else.

After lunch we decided raising the battery tray an inch would allow us to locate the battery far enough back for the intake tube, and still give the shift linkage enough room to operate. A stray length of 1 square stock quickly found itself fashioned into a T shape and welded in between the frame and battery tray. The battery still had plenty of clearance between the hood and motor, and it didn’t take much effort to re-route the battery cables.


The actual construction of the intake tube probably required more thought and spacial thinking than any other part of this project, however I find it to be the hardest to narrate. We started out by staring at the engine bay and scratching our heads. Once we had a couple ideas, we began mocking up the first bend.


We started the mock-up with an arbitrary piece of tubing extending from the throttle body toward the fenderwell. When I say “arbitrary,” I mean we found it on the floor and it looked like a good enough place to start. It just so happened that this piece was the right length, and it was used in the final design.

After more staring and head scratching we pulled out a J-bend and looked at what sort of angles we needed to get through the fenderwell gracefully and then to where we wanted the airfilter.
Frank and I have cobbled together a few exhaust systems from mandrel bends. And I wish I could say we had some sort of beautiful measuring device or technique that we use to determine where to cut that J-bend to get the right angle. But I’ve found the best technique is to take your best guess based on what you see (any visual aids you can use for reference are helpful too), and plan on not getting it right the first few times.

So that’s what we did. We cut out a bend, test fit it, massaged it a bit with a file and tack welded it on. We got lucky and our first set of bends were on the money. We used a bolt conveniently located in the fender area as a mounting point to hold the tube rigid.


At this point it was just a matter of finishing the welds and cleaning them up. Since this would be on display in the engine compartment we ground the welds flush to give it the appearance of being made from a single piece of pipe. Which actually proved to be quite a chore.


One thing you’ll find if you look at enough different mandrel bends is that they are not all created equal. In theory a mandrel bent tube will retain virtually the same cross-sectional area as a straight tube of the same size. Whereas a compression bend becomes distorted and loses some of its cross-sectional area. This makes mandrel bent exhaust and intake systems much better for high-performance applications because you can ensure a fairly consistent path with few restrictions... Not because they look nice (but that helps too). But if the machine making the mandrel bends has excessive wear or isn’t calibrated properly, the bends it produces will be of lesser quality and be slightly distorted. Whereas a properly calibrated setup will produce much nicer bends with uniform shape.

In all honesty I don’t think anything short of a genuine balls-out competition application really needs those perfectly round mandrel bends. And if you’re reading this you probably don’t drive one of those. As for me, I don’t mind paying a few bucks less for sub-perfect bends. Especially when I’m buying a ton of them. My shoddy welds will probably put more restriction in an exhaust system than the slight change in cross-sectional area. But this isn’t an exhaust we’re making, this is an intake tube, and its going to be looked at with a lot more scrutiny.

The mandrel bends we had were left over from an exhaust project. Their bargain-basement pricing reflected their quality, and weren’t as perfectly round as I would have liked for something that’s going to be looked at this often. They were of course more than adequate on the performance side, but they required quite a bit of finishing work to blend the transitions.

Hours of grinding, filing, bondoing, sanding, primering, painting and clearcoating later we had a pretty reasonable looking intake tube. And when you consider that it was put together by a couple of hungover idiots with hacksaws and handfiles, it looks pretty freakin’ great.




As far as any performance change, you'll have to ask Frank... he hasn't let me drive it yet, and I'm sure he'll chime in here shortly.



Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 12:05 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but you cut out the existing battery tray welds, then re-welded the battery tray into the new location?

Is there an effective way to move the battery tray without welding?

Also, what did you use to cut the tray out?



Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 12:06 AM
Forgot to add: Looks awesome. Good job!



Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 1:17 AM
Looks great, now mass produce them and sell them to us!! And i bet that sounds wicked all revved up at 5500rpm! Slurppppp, whinnnnnnnnnneeeeee!



Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 4:12 AM
nice wright up man and sweet/clean look i like it alot





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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 4:34 AM
Looks good, now only if I didnt have to scroll sideways along like 10ft of screen to read the write up it would be better, lol j/k.





Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 5:47 AM
Admiral Jedi wrote:Maybe this is a dumb question, but you cut out the existing battery tray welds, then re-welded the battery tray into the new location?

Is there an effective way to move the battery tray without welding?

Also, what did you use to cut the tray out?


I moved my tray as well, i used hole saw bits to cut a hole around the welds, then the tray lifts up and then i used self tapping screws to hold down the tray around the same area that the vis has his...

nice work man!! looks good...



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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 6:31 AM
Looks VERY nice. Love the attention to detail on the intake too.



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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 7:38 AM
You guys did a great job makif this look good and function. Love how you were able to keep the washer bottle unlike me . And the fast that you have no ABS makes it easy for you to move the battery back . But I kind dig my tiny battery






Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 8:08 AM
I am definatly impressed with the way it looks. My only problem with doing that is it will be a pain in the ass to clean the filter often.


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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 8:15 AM
Wade Jarvis wrote:I am definatly impressed with the way it looks. My only problem with doing that is it will be a pain in the ass to clean the filter often.


Not really. I had my filter there when I was NA. Just remove the fenderliner and the filter is easy to get off. Can even do it with the tire on.



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5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26

Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 10:05 AM
great job



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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 10:28 AM
Very nice job guys. You must live in a dry climate, cause you wouldn't get away with running no fender liners around here, lol.


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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 11:36 AM
Whoops, sorry about the pics being spread out like that guys, forgot to put spaces in between.

as far as how we got the battery tray out, we drilled pilot holes in the middle of the post welds and progressivly increased the size of our drill bits until we were out past the welds. However even then it was still a chore. I like Acer's approach with a hole saw, I bet the tray would come right off without all the prying etc we had to deal with. And as far as sheetmetal screws, I dont see why those wouldnt work just fine. However if you want to raise the tray like we did, you'll have to get creative with your spacer.



Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 11:38 AM
HA! thanks nigel im really glad you posted that pic! WOW thats not fair i was hungover, tired, and on allergy medicne.... bad combo










Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 12:05 PM
Yuck, looks like it was made by someone educated at a Tucson institution lol.
jk, very nice



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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 12:46 PM
Are you military? If so, the haircut and cleanliness of the garage gave it away, great job though bro!


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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 1:21 PM
nope im not military i keep my hair short cause i ride a streetbike almost everyday and i dont feel like having to wear a hat everywhere and
as far as the garage goes it just got cleaned but it's usally pretty clean it just make working that much easier.


oh and OHV notec - its bisbee tech get it right LOL

thanks guys







Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 1:21 PM
looks pretty sweet , you guys did a good job

now its time to duplicate it in 3" tubing

but youll have to do some triming







Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 1:34 PM
Good work.


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Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 2:48 PM
thanks guys and eric thats the plan

we olny did it in 2.5 cause thats all i had and its still 10X's better than what i had before











Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Friday, September 22, 2006 4:06 PM
We'll probably do the next one in 3" aluminum. But I wont get to touch that until next July when I get back from Switzerland. Hopefully Frank'll have a heat exchanger and some other goodies in place by then (headwork???????)



Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:35 PM
hah ah hah hahaahh h nigel i love the sig!!!!!!










Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:36 PM
ill have to do that with the g/fs cav , im using the aem on hers right now

which works better than stock







Re: streaker1369's new intake tube
Monday, September 25, 2006 8:20 AM
^^^ for sure. and im sure she will love the extra noise









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