Okay here is my delema. I want to boost my 05 CAV with the 2.2 ECO. At first I wanted to get the GM S/C but lately I have been leaning more torwareds the T/C setup. I would want to start with about 10psi until the eternals are all replaced and then run about 15-20psi. Just really wondering which setup would be best for this? I have heard alot of contraversy on this subject, and I want to hear from people that really know about boost, not just some crack pots opinoins.
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Shifted, thanks for the input. I was going back and forth in my head about it. Either way I was going to go with HP Tuners, if I end up going S/C still would go with HP Tuners and not the reflash. But since I want to run more than 12-14psi after the internals are replaced, I will be going with a T/C setup. A guy a couple blocks over from where I live, has a machine shop in his garage and does this sort of thing for a living.
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this is the same exact question asked 186 times this year. and when you say internals replaced do you mean stock replacement or upgraded?
Well Kyle, let me put it like this, this is going to be sarcastic so do not take offense to this. First I am not a dumb a$$ kid, second I am not a moron, third this will not be my first car that I have ever built, just my first 4 cylinder. So from that do you actually think that I would replace my internals with stock replacements? Anyone with at least half a brain cell would not replace with stock replacements when they are building an engine. You really need to read what I very first posted, because now to me you are sounding like someone that really doesn't know what your talking about.
But seriously, that is a good question since most people are like "You mean I have to upgrade that and this". So do not take any offense to my rambling. Yes I am going to upgrade the internals. Only problem is I am having difficulty finding a decent T/C setup for an automatic. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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05cav LS Sedan wrote:Well Kyle, let me put it like this, this is going to be sarcastic so do not take offense to this. First I am not a dumb a$$ kid, second I am not a moron, third this will not be my first car that I have ever built, just my first 4 cylinder. So from that do you actually think that I would replace my internals with stock replacements? Anyone with at least half a brain cell would not replace with stock replacements when they are building an engine. You really need to read what I very first posted, because now to me you are sounding like someone that really doesn't know what your talking about.
But seriously, that is a good question since most people are like "You mean I have to upgrade that and this". So do not take any offense to my rambling. Yes I am going to upgrade the internals. Only problem is I am having difficulty finding a decent T/C setup for an automatic. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
i was not being sarcastic at all. to be completly honest whenever i see a whats better turbo or supercharger thread i have to ask questions like this, because like you said some people really dont know.
Piece your own kit together, it takes some time and know-how, but you'll be happier in the end. Hahn does not make kits for the auto (but you can make one of thier kits fit by reworking one of the charge pipes). JTuners I think offers kits or just manifolds.
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its a lot of fun flying fast as hell and not worrying about shifting!!
I peiced my turbo together one jbo search at a time, there is a lot of good stuff on here...
I went with the ebay manifold, cheap, and has good reviews -
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buy a turbo, wastegate (stick to external if you plan on boosting so much ... ive read that on here, dont ask me why, i think its because its more stable), get some green top injectors (they work perfectly, and they are good for about 15psi give or take,
http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/catalog/bosch-42lb-440cc-highz-fuel-injector-p-129.html, thats them), definitely go with hptuners for tuning... there are other options like an aem standalone and megasquirt standalone but the simplest one is hptuners (hptuners.com)
check out my registry, let me know if you have any questions, i did exactly what you are about to do
Kyle Kurtz wrote:this is the same exact question asked 186 times this year. and when you say internals replaced do you mean stock replacement or upgraded?
thats nothing, expect a lot worse... you are just getting started!!
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|Stock: Fuel Pump, Transmission, Manifold, TB, Head, Head Gasket, Ignition, Suspension...|
Kyle I know what you mean. I meant what I said as in haha funny. I understood where you were coming from. I just do not want to F anything up in the process. Shifted thank for the info and help. I will be looking into both set ups further and more in depth.
Kyle if I pissed you off or something, sorry. Was not trying to piss anyone off.
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today is the 193rd day of the year! lol so you were close with that 186...
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|Stock: Fuel Pump, Transmission, Manifold, TB, Head, Head Gasket, Ignition, Suspension...|
Thanks for all that info ACER. I will start looking to piece it all together here really soon. So for now, looking at the prices on each and adding it all up. Then on to purchasing the pieces.
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05cav LS Sedan wrote:Kyle I know what you mean. I meant what I said as in haha funny. I understood where you were coming from. I just do not want to F anything up in the process. Shifted thank for the info and help. I will be looking into both set ups further and more in depth.
Kyle if I pissed you off or something, sorry. Was not trying to piss anyone off.
lol im not pissed off, just lettin ya know.
Seriously though.. this has been asked a million times and answered a few times as well. It's all in the FAQ. If you are looking for a more specific answer, run a search in the boost forum. If you still didn't find what you want, search again with more keywords and search through message bodies. This is the most comonly asked question in this forum, it's common curtisy to the knowledgable people on the site to search first and asked after. I don't think Kyle was meaning to offend you.
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Hes asking for opinions. A FAQ cannot give you many opinions.
Id go the T/C if your looking for lots of boost.
Minion, listen to Myles, he is dead on, looking for opinions not a FAQ.
No Kyle was not trying to offend me or anyone else, nor was I. I was only being extremely sarcastic is all, like hahaha funny. Just so you know, we were not arguing at all.
Here is something that I was tossing around, get the S/C, use HP Tuners to tune the PCM, upgrade the internals, then go and have a 1" pulley made for the S/C. Now I know that the pulley being made will cost quiet a bit of money, but that is life. I know that I will have to put a actual inter-cooler to it, which I had planed on doing in the first place. Now, if that is something that I really could not do with the S/C (seperate inter-cooler) then the S/C would not be very practical for the kind of setup that I want to run.
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I keep debating it myself. I keep trying to think of how I could manhandal a procharger or kenne bell or just go with the gm eaton. but after I go through all the teck data of all the diferent types of boost I just keep going back to "well I could do that just as good or better with a turbo becouse....."
that and I have seen alot of turbo cars make more hp and go faster than s/c cars at the same boost level
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