OK i know theres a few sets on the market but which is suitable, im going to have the HP tuners so I would think that theres some way that I can be code free with them right ?

I would think that turbo cams would prob suit me a bit better since i produce a linear increase in flow all the way to redline it doesnt flow alot down low like a roots but it has a bigger top end punch more like a turbo

These are the ones ive seen if theres others please let me know, also does anyone actually have any of these are there any cammed boosted ecos out there?

Level Zero Motorsports Triflow Ecotec Cams Level Zero Motorsports
Cutting edge camshaft profile technology! These are among the first aftermarket camshafts designed using Tri-flow technology exclusive to Level Zero Motorsports. Two different profiles are used on the intake lobes to provide a better swirl of the mixture in the cylinder. The result is a high performance camshaft that offers amazing high RPM performance, coupled with a seemingly stock idle and neck-snapping low RPM throttle response. Tri-flow technology also makes for an incredible NA AND forced induction profile. Traditionally, performance camshaft profiles were NA OR forced induction, but not with Tri-flow technology! The same profile can be used for both NA and forced induction while offering great low AND high RPM performance. Turbo lag is also greatly reduced with Tri-flow cams due to the powerful low RPM powerband offered. Tri-flow camshafts are truly a great all-around, daily-driven, NA and turbo proven setup for the daily driver or track racer.
Intake 1: 264*, 394
Intake 2: 256*, 392
Exhaust: 256*, 392

Comp Cams Turbo Ecotec Cams Turbo Tech Racing
Turbo Applications power from 2200-7000rpm .423 intake and .419 exhaust valve lift, 248 intake and 244 exhaust duration (204 intake and 200 exhaust @ .050" duration) Wide power range, good power

Comp Cams Blower Ecotec Cams Turbo Tech Racing
Blower Applications power from 2800-7000rpm .423 intake and .436 exhaust valve lift, 252 intake and 262 exhaust duration (210 intake and 218 exhaust @ .050" duration)



1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85

im doing the blower cams since im doing the gmpp kit, i would prolly say the same for you since your blown

Rodimus, compare a few dynos of your car and an eco m62 (even if its a crank dyno from GM or elsewhere)... i bet your powerband will still have the same general shape as the eaton, just more of an increase up top. Only a very specifically matched turbo will have the same shaped powerband..... and lord knows most people on here have turbos bigger than they'll ever put to use. I say stick with blower/s/c oriented cams for this specific reason. You would think that since you've basically got half of a turbo on their, that turbo cams would work better, but since its still belt drive with a very linear powerband, i don't think that will be the case.





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actually i just thought of this.... grab one of airtonics' dynos, and one of yours... i couldn't remember anyone ever dynoing the m62 on a 2.2 yet, but airtonics has now that i think of it.

also you have to think of what you want out of the cams... you can have cams that will give better low end to make up for the slightly "laggy" (for lack of a better word) vortech, or mid-top end cams to make full advantage of where that blower DOES work, but that will mean sacrificing even more lower end. I know you don't go racing that much, and still have all that ungodly stereo weight in there, so unless thats gonna change soon, you might want to think about the choices you have...




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Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:Rodimus, compare a few dynos of your car and an eco m62 (even if its a crank dyno from GM or elsewhere)... i bet your powerband will still have the same general shape as the eaton, just more of an increase up top. Only a very specifically matched turbo will have the same shaped powerband..... and lord knows most people on here have turbos bigger than they'll ever put to use. I say stick with blower/s/c oriented cams for this specific reason. You would think that since you've basically got half of a turbo on their, that turbo cams would work better, but since its still belt drive with a very linear powerband, i don't think that will be the case.

and what size turbo's are those?





rodiums - I would stay with blower cams... I def. wanna go with the comp cams turbo cams sometime down the road. So get the comp cams.... I have had my share of troubles with LZM cams and when I called comp cams all the problems they said I would have are fuel tuning issues. When they tested there's they had no cel's



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well ok Phil you get the cams and ill get the HP! if it works im set lol

I dont really know what would benefit me more I have enough trouble getting off the line as it is now, torque usually isnt a problem in our cars, I'm most concerned with being code free whatever can do that and still give me some power is what ill go with



1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85

i'm pretty sure that HPT can delete certain codes from the computer entirely... like, forever.... running with no cat? delete the catalyst ineffiency codes from the ecu and it won't know that its SUPPOSED to throw them. But most time the codes are thrown because the cams take the engine so far out of whack at certain rpms so far as fuel goes, that the computer has to compensate too much for it and throws a code... If you have HPT you'll be able to change all of that so codes won't be an issue at all. Remember, you won't be running a restrictive factory program anymore, stop buying mods as if you were! For once, i'm really jealous of you guys because Mk4 VW's don't have any open-source tuning system like HPT or Hondata... we're stuck with mail order tunes or driving to connecticut for the best of the best in on-dyno ecu tuning.




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im mostly getting it to make the the P0172 code go off which is the too rich code, i wont be able to pass inspection with that, I wonder though how much they can tell what you have done to the ecu



1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85

funny Jay I havent had a cat in for over a year and NEVER threw a cat code.... funny story though, really



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I haven't thrown a code and I don't have a cat either. Must be a Pa thing




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