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turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 5:36 PM
alright this is exactly wut i have so far and wut im getting, im open to ANY suggestions as well, but most of these parts is very much wut im set on, i appreciate ur help and time for reading my list

wut i have
T3/T04b .60 .48 garret turbo internally gated
log manifold, ceramic coated
DSM 1 gen bov

wut im buying
cartech 2025 FMU
acell afpr
ford brown top #35 injectors
turbosmart boost controller
PCV routed to catch can then to welded nipple on intake side of turbo
vac lines
blaasperformance oil kit 1/4 feed 5/8 drain
summit mandrel bends, having it welded up
blazer 92-95 fuel pump, i figure 188lph based on some math
johnny race car 30x6x3 intercooler
silicone couplers
T bolt clamps
k/n cone filter
Oil cooler
auto trans cooler in place of stock unit
2800 stall converter
zeitronix zt-2 wideband controller
apex-i s-afc

think i listed everything, anyways thank you

Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 7:08 PM
What kind of stall converter are you going to get? And where from? Just curious.



Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 7:45 PM
well i found a place who rebuilds them on ebay, ranging around 150 dollars, they have excellent feedback, and basically all they sell is converters
Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 8:54 PM
If you're getting an Fuel Pressure Regulator, you don't need an SAFC. It won't help you either in boost.

Also, did you get the flange for the BOV?



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Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 9:04 PM
yeah the bov came with the flange

heres a pic for all of the bov, shes mint



as for the safc and afpr, ive read a few times over now, that to make the brown tops idle u need the both of them, any more input on that?
Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 9:18 PM
On the brown tops and the reflash i had NO problems while idling. That was with a 35 lb base pressure.



Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 9:22 PM
how did u reflash the 98 comp? or did u do the 00 comp swap
Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 11:14 PM
scudz24 wrote:well i found a place who rebuilds them on ebay, ranging around 150 dollars, they have excellent feedback, and basically all they sell is converters

Are they the ones that are painted black?



Re: turbo list help
Friday, March 03, 2006 11:39 PM
Having an SAFC does not cancel out your need for an adjustable FPR because the fuel pressure is not electronically controlled. If you want to raise fuel pressure (which you will have to do with larger injectors / boost) then you need an AFPR. As for SAFC, it's no way to tune for boost. Either go with an FMU or a piggback / standalone such as E-manage / Megasquirt.




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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:31 AM
thats wut im going with, like i mentioned cartech fmu, accel fpr, and a safc

as for the trq converter, yes its black, anyone ever bought one?



Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:16 PM
scudz24 wrote:thats wut im going with, like i mentioned cartech fmu, accel fpr, and a safc

as for the trq converter, yes its black, anyone ever bought one?


If you're getting an FPR, there is no need for an SAFC. Scratch it off your list buddy...



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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:54 PM
^^^listen to NJHK you don't need the SAFC if u gettin a fpr


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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:02 PM
NJHK (The Turbo Negro) wrote:
scudz24 wrote:thats wut im going with, like i mentioned cartech fmu, accel fpr, and a safc

as for the trq converter, yes its black, anyone ever bought one?


If you're getting an FPR, there is no need for an SAFC. Scratch it off your list buddy...


No, an FMU eliminates the need for an SAFC. The AFPR is for adjusting fuel pressure at IDLE. The FMU controls fuel pressure added in boost.




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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:33 PM
alright scratch the safc, anythign else guys?



Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:38 PM
Spotabee Racing (The Fake Z24) wrote:
NJHK (The Turbo Negro) wrote:
scudz24 wrote:thats wut im going with, like i mentioned cartech fmu, accel fpr, and a safc

as for the trq converter, yes its black, anyone ever bought one?


If you're getting an FPR, there is no need for an SAFC. Scratch it off your list buddy...


No, an FMU eliminates the need for an SAFC. The AFPR is for adjusting fuel pressure at IDLE. The FMU controls fuel pressure added in boost.


Well lets go off of what you said, An SAFC is pointless in boost, so where else would it be useful...in vacuum or at idle. If he has an Adjustable Fuel Pressure regulator, he'll be running the right base pressure that he needs and won't need to fiddle around with an SAFC to try and idle properly with bigger injectors (which it probably won't even do so well at that).



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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:44 PM
cant you use a cartech FMU to change the base pressure as well as the pressure in boost?
Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 5:37 PM
M-tay (White Rice) wrote:cant you use a cartech FMU to change the base pressure as well as the pressure in boost?


What Hahn Racecraft does is get rid of the stock FPR and uses it to adjust base pressure, so in that case, it does.



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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 5:44 PM
All you guys saying scratch the S-AFC haven't tried to idle brown tops on an LD9 and speak from a lack of experience.

If you'd care to run the calculations and prove to me that you're correct, that would be tremendous, because at this point in time you're completely wrong as to what his needs for the S-AFC are.

-Chris-



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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:12 PM
SunfighterGT wrote:All you guys saying scratch the S-AFC haven't tried to idle brown tops on an LD9 and speak from a lack of experience.

If you'd care to run the calculations and prove to me that you're correct, that would be tremendous, because at this point in time you're completely wrong as to what his needs for the S-AFC are.

-Chris-


We aren't trying to put down the SAFC but we are saying if he is going to use an AFPR, he doesn't really need an SAFC.



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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:49 PM
I know adam. Explain to me why he doesn't "need" an s-afc for his setup? Because his needs have nothing to do with boost-referenced fuel.

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Re: turbo list help
Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:54 PM
SunfighterGT wrote:I know adam. Explain to me why he doesn't "need" an s-afc for his setup? Because his needs have nothing to do with boost-referenced fuel.

-Chris-


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Re: turbo list help
Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:02 AM
Loosen up the dreds!!!!!

-Chris-



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Re: turbo list help
Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:33 AM
scudz24 wrote:how did u reflash the 98 comp? or did u do the 00 comp swap


computer swap



Re: turbo list help
Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:39 PM
SunfighterGT wrote:I know adam. Explain to me why he doesn't "need" an s-afc for his setup? Because his needs have nothing to do with boost-referenced fuel.

-Chris-


I love the JBO but this is the only car site in the world that thinks the SAFC is worthless. I won't even pretend that I know how all the electronics and signals work but it IS beneficial in a turbo setup. It is not to used to solve fuel problems, but it works very well to adjust fuel when you are running a little rich or a little lean. It will not replace an AFPR or FMU, so if you don't have the money don't buy the Apex'i unit. However if you can get a cheap one on ebay and don't have the money or want to get the Megasquirt or other standalones, get a SAFC2. You can pull or add enough fuel to make a considerable difference in your A/F ratios.


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