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yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:52 PM
okay i'll be running a hi flow fuel pump, 550 cc injectors, rising rate regulator, wide band o2 sensor and of course a t3/t4 turbo. what the hell else do i need to control this stuff? im i going to have problems idling with those injectors or does the fuel pressure regulator control that? and how can you retard the timing cheaply so it wont knock? im just wondering if i watch the o2 sensor readings how to i correct or adjust the air/fuel mixture. in the faQ i always get lost or this stuff is missing, it say what you need to get but there some info missing on how to do it right from start up.
counting the days to turboing.
snow go away lol

Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:55 PM
also please explain this in boost and out of boost and how you do that? i thought it always be running when the engines runs?
Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:59 PM
Well first, how much boost do you want to be running? 550cc injectors is a bit much for most applications on stock engines, and you will have problems idling with those injectors. The FPR does take care of it a little bit, but you can only turn it down so far.

The in boost/out of boost thing is pretty simple, you won't be in boost unless you really give it, usually 50% throttle or more, and above 2500-3000 RPM. If you are below that, or just cruising along, your car will run in vacuum like normal.





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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:19 PM
nick renaud wrote:also please explain this in boost and out of boost and how you do that? i thought it always be running when the engines runs?


If you are asking this you need to do a LOT more research before turboing your car.



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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:43 PM
if your doing the car in your reg , do yourself a favor and put the 550cc injectors in your tool box and get a set of 320cc or 360cc

youll be alot better off , the 550 will flood the car







Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:50 PM
planning 10 psi max. i read a bit about this stuff but there are some blanks i need filled. what about the ford red tops? got them too?
Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:17 PM
i think this will be at least the second post of yours where you ask to be spoonfed every last bit of info regarding how to turbo your car. Use the search button, read the boost faq, and try doing some of your own research. Not only will you learn more that way but you'll start finding links and info that you may find valuable down the line.




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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:02 AM
I'd listen to each and every one of the guys above...... they all did their own research, and figured out whats best for them.

Basicly..... read, read, read...... the the Internet...... you can find anything if you search for it....




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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:56 AM
SpeedRacerZ wrote:I'd listen to each and every one of the guys above...... they all did their own research, and figured out whats best for them.

Basicly..... read, read, read...... the the Internet...... you can find anything if you search for it....


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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:14 AM
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:
nick renaud wrote:also please explain this in boost and out of boost and how you do that? i thought it always be running when the engines runs?


If you are asking this you need to do a LOT more research before turboing your car.



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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:00 AM
So you went out and bought a bunch of parts for your car without even understanding how they work, how to control them or why they're not good for your setup?

As said - read read read read read. Search and read more. And if you can't figure it out just stick to driving the car around Naturally Aspirated.

Why is it that the last 2 years is the "turbo" phase. Why can't people just stick to widebodies and 20" rims.... they have to breach into the sanctity of boost because it's the new "cool" thing to do.

Turboing is not easy, it's not cheap, and it's not something you do overnight. It's not a bolt-on, and it's NOT something you trust somebody uneducated to do.

When are people going to figure all this out?

-Chris-



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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:43 AM
SunfighterGT wrote:So you went out and bought a bunch of parts for your car without even understanding how they work, how to control them or why they're not good for your setup?

As said - read read read read read. Search and read more. And if you can't figure it out just stick to driving the car around Naturally Aspirated.

Why is it that the last 2 years is the "turbo" phase. Why can't people just stick to widebodies and 20" rims.... they have to breach into the sanctity of boost because it's the new "cool" thing to do.

Turboing is not easy, it's not cheap, and it's not something you do overnight. It's not a bolt-on, and it's NOT something you trust somebody uneducated to do.

When are people going to figure all this out?

-Chris-


well if he added widebody, 20" rims, and a wack of stickers, no need for boost......

seriously though listen to Chris..... he knows everything there is to know about turboing a 2.4l from looks to function, he's always bugging me about looks and function, and I only NOW after being turbo for 6 months, have got the function part down, he did both, it took him HOURS of research, and HOURS of wrench time, oh and HOURS of painting



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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:10 AM
nick renaud wrote:also please explain this in boost and out of boost and how you do that? i thought it always be running when the engines runs?








Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:12 AM
<waits for insults about tweed seats>
AHAHAHAHA





Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:12 AM
Lee wrote:
SunfighterGT wrote:So you went out and bought a bunch of parts for your car without even understanding how they work, how to control them or why they're not good for your setup?

As said - read read read read read. Search and read more. And if you can't figure it out just stick to driving the car around Naturally Aspirated.

Why is it that the last 2 years is the "turbo" phase. Why can't people just stick to widebodies and 20" rims.... they have to breach into the sanctity of boost because it's the new "cool" thing to do.

Turboing is not easy, it's not cheap, and it's not something you do overnight. It's not a bolt-on, and it's NOT something you trust somebody uneducated to do.

When are people going to figure all this out?

-Chris-


well if he added widebody, 20" rims, and a wack of stickers, no need for boost......

seriously though listen to Chris..... he knows everything there is to know about turboing a 2.4l from looks to function, he's always bugging me about looks and function, and I only NOW after being turbo for 6 months, have got the function part down, he did both, it took him HOURS of research, and HOURS of wrench time, oh and HOURS of painting



Lee


I don't know "everything" nor will I ever claim to. I know a small chunk though.

As for hours of painting - no. Lots of planning... and calculating. Painting doesn't take long, and most of my ish is powdercoated.

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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:22 AM
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As for hours of painting - no. Lots of planning... and calculating. Painting doesn't take long, and most of my ish is powdercoated


if by hours of painting he means hours of prep work.. ugh prep work

screw that.. i'll let a body shop take care of it for me. Thats one thing I suck at is body work.. I refuse to spend 5 hours prepping a surface to have a fly ruin it since I don't have a paint booth





Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:39 AM
TheFlyingSquirrel (PJ) wrote:
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As for hours of painting - no. Lots of planning... and calculating. Painting doesn't take long, and most of my ish is powdercoated


if by hours of painting he means hours of prep work.. ugh prep work

screw that.. i'll let a body shop take care of it for me. Thats one thing I suck at is body work.. I refuse to spend 5 hours prepping a surface to have a fly ruin it since I don't have a paint booth


He means my engine bay.... I spent hours making it look good. I wanted 2 things from my engine and turbo kit = form AND function.

Function is easy when you do the math and buy the parts. Form is hard because it costs a lot more $$$ to make things look pretty and use higher quality parts, as well as a lot more time to plan it out and prep and finish it off nicely.

Fetters engine is a #1 example of this.

-Chris-



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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:52 PM
yo see were off topic here already lol were on how to paint your @!#$ to make it look good who cares. im going to buy high heat black paint and paint ever thing black, intercooler, charge pipes, h.o manifold and it will look plain but thats what im going for. plain and out of site might even put the gauges in the glove box lol out of sight out of mind.

and yes im very glad for not having tweed seats or a cavalier newer than 1999. i picked my car for one reason i love it.

as for buying some parts no i bought a existing kit a guy was already running.
and why does every one want boost cause the stock cavi didnt come with enough horse power to keep poeple satisfied. im going to keep my stock rims too. bling = cheese body kits put them on your hondas.

as for the the dick head who droves a VW i read the Faq and it tells you what you need go read it and see what i mean.I want the info spoon fed thats why im here so tell me something i dont know you stupid pile of crap.
Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:08 PM
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as for the the dick head who droves a VW i read the Faq and it tells you what you need go read it and see what i mean.I want the info spoon fed thats why im here so tell me something i dont know you stupid pile of crap.



As for the dick head who can't spell or apparently type a coherent sentence.... EVERYONE in this thread told you the exact same thing I did. IF you have a SPECIFIC question, than ask it, but so far all you've done is say "hey, i bought all these parts but i don't know how they work together, what should I do?". To that, our only logical response would be to tell you to do more research.




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Re: yeah im dumb explain it to me?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:14 PM
yo smarty pants why dont you go and post a faq that explains what the @!#$ parts do? there research done. i should go buy a srt 4 cause their forum is much better and not flaming hot every post.
one guy even said in a mag they said check out the j-body club but be carefull what you say cause it will get flamed. see how bad we are on here. was reading on the srt4 forums,they have nice things about installs on turbo timers and cool stuff all we have is this is what you need for turbo do it yourself have fun.
this is why we all have questions and was pleasant.
never giving up the cavi blowing it up is different lol i reabuild and try again
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