i did some searching and i didn't find exactly what i needed. i'm planning to buy 2 Rockford P3s in a few weeks. i don't really know a lot about systems so i'm having trouble in finding the right amp. i'm thinking about the Rockford P1000 or the T1500.
the subs are 2 ohm, 500w rms and 1000w max each
the p1000 is 1000w rms and the t1500 is 1500w rms
which would be the best amp?
Are the P3's dual or single coil? If the amps are only stable down to 2 ohms, and the subs are dual coil, either will work fine. Headroom is always nice to have, so if you can spring for the bigger amp, go for it. OR, do you have a budget to put into a good amp? There might even be better options out there unless you are hung up on brand matching?
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The subs are dual coil and the amps can go to 1 ohm stable, which I guess it's good lol. And I'm going for Fosgate amps cuz some friends recommended them. What other amps would be good? I got a budget of about $600 for the amp.
If the amp is 1 ohm stable, what do you mean "they're 2 ohm amps". You might want to learn a little more to fully understand what works together, and what you're buying and how things work.... PLEASE ask more questions before spending that kind of cash man. ALSO, are you dead set on the P3's? If you have a $600 budget for an amp, which is about double what you need to spend. Dude I can get you a HIGH END brand that puts out 1K watts for $300. I say consider asking more questions and looking into more details before buying.
Here are some pointers:
-What's your TOTAL budget?
-Don't forget all the little pieces. The enclosure needs to be made to match the subs you buy, wiring is an expense, the amp, the subs, fuses, any other little accessories you might need.
-What, over all are you looking for? Be it good, clean, solid sound. Be it heavy bass. Deep lows etc...
Give more details on what you want before more recommendations can be given, and definitely ask more questions. Do you understand the relationship between a subs ohm load, an amps ohm handling, power output at different impedances? You NEED to match everything up right.
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well like i said, i don't really know about systems. my friend has one p2 and i like how it sounds. i've heard pioneers and kickers, and i like the fosgate better. i don't really understand all that ohm stuff, that's why i'm asking which amp is better since i am sure about the p3s. i know amps can be costly so that's why i had a $600 budget for it. i can get the p1000 for $290 and the t1500 for about $400. but i mean if there are better amps to power my p3s for about the same price i would like to know lol
I'm assuming these are the subs?
http://www.woofersetc.com/p6969/P3D212--Rockford-Fosgate-Punch-Stage-3-12"--Dual-2Ohm-Subwoofer.htm
If so, you can only go as low as 2ohms. You should be looking for an amp that puts out about 1K watts at 2 ohms. Those subs are also available in dual 4 ohm coil configuration, so i would consider that. the dual 4 ohm coils would allow your to wire down to 1 ohm. An amp that puts out that kind of power at 1 ohm is going to be cheaper than at 2 ohms. I can get you some wiring diagrams to show how the wiring works, but honestly, i also wish you would open up to other brands and also decide on what sound you're looking for. If P2's sounded good enough to you, then higher end stuff probably isn't needed and I won't bother talking you out of RF P3s lol. But just remember one saying...... Bad will sound good until you hear better. If RF and Pioneer are the best you've heard, they will sound great....until you hear some real gear ;P
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yep those are the subs. .and i know there are way better subs and amps than RF. but I'm a 2nd year college student so I don't have a lot of money to spend and I have other things in my head lol all I want for now is a decent system. once i graduate and have more money i'll look into those badass brands.
Do you NEED to get those specific ones, or can you get the 4 ohm models?
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You would be better off to do that. Here's the wiring diagram you might want to pay attention to, as far as wiring a pair of dual 4 ohm subs to a 1 ohm stable amp(even in your beloved brand lol):
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/woofer_wizard.asp?submitted=true&woofer_qty=2&woofer_imp=4
And as far as I'm concerned, if you are on a college students budget, stick with an amp that puts out 1k Watts at 1 ohm. I'm not against RF amps if it's what you want.
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alright thanx man, i appreciate it.
and what amps do you know are good? i'm open for suggestions
I would say for around $300 or so, the RF 1000 watt amp or the Sundown SAZ-1000D wouldn't be bad ideas.... if you wanted to start stepping into higher end options, I can get you into a high end brand like Rainbow with their DM2000 for, if I remember right, $350-400.
This is the amp I'm talking about:
http://www.woofersetc.com/p7097/iPaul-DM2000--Rainbow-iPaul-1-Ch-1000-Watt-Amplifier.htm
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@!#$ off Brad, you know it's sexy lol.
And, if you are serious about buying a nice amp now, I could always call, get the final price on that amp shipped to your door, and get you set up for an order. PS, it would be from an ACTUAL authorized Rainbow dealer with full warranty and the best price guaranteed
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yeah thanx that'd be nice man. just let me know the price.
I slightly underguessed, it would be about $425 shipped for that amp.
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and another thing i forgot to mention, it looks like in your profile, your car is white. That amp is also available in white instead of black.
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yeah, i think that would look better. the only problem is that i don't have the money right now. i get paid in two weeks.
No problem. If it's an amp you are interested in, just let me know when you have the money and want to order.
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i got rockford fosgate t1500 and that is 1 killer amp.. it's very underrated and its actual rms is close to 1800 while it's very small and light
Now.... not exactly bashing RF here, but just shedding a tiny bit of light on just one difference between your typical off the shelf brand, and the higher end stuff... this one difference being THD.
Now they say that 1% is the threshold for the average human ear to be able to audibly hear and notice THD. That RF amp, at it's rated power,(which RF does at 4 ohms), is 0.8%... Now let's bump up to their 1ohm rating of 1500, then factor in that it tests at 1800 AND factor in, that power output aside, THD will go up with impedance drop anyhow. Now, if you push that amp to put out 1800 watts, you are DEFINITELY above 1% THD, significantly I would even assume. That's 100% unacceptable and absolute garbage to me. Hell even the 4 ohm, full power rating of 0.8% that RF says is unacceptable.
Where does this compare to a higher end brand? Well...
Zapco DC1100.1: 0.03%
Rainbow DM2000: 0.02%
Audison LRx 1.1K: 0.04%
Image Dynamics Q 1200.1: <0.1%
JL Audio 1000/1v2: <0.05%
Then you get brands like Sundown who think saying "wellll.... our's test less than 1%" is a good and accurate enough number to give their customers(one reason I don't feel like becoming one lol). To me, that's just as @!#$ty as RF's listed .8%. Probably right on par with that.
That's just one of the many reasons some brands are worth spending more money for. Aside from quality of parts, quality of craftsmanship, and many many other reason.
Threw Sundown in there so it wouldn't seem like I'm single out RF, I'm sure there are plenty more that compete with them in the "sub-par THD and other specs" category, but I doubt there are many in that price range "boasting" 0.8%+
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"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
i pushed this amp pretty much to its limits and never managed to get it to bend out of shape..
and since all the rf amps are overrated that means you can safely push the advertised power and not worry about the THD, while many other brands over inflate their performance causing them to clip so when it comes to CLEAN power rf is the way to go..
