I want to make an attempt at some kickpanels. I was thinking I want to try some 8's for the midbass. And Ill get some tweeters too. Probably will end up being active if I can handle it. If not Ill make or find a passive crossover. Im gonna keep the 6.5s in the door. Ill probably need a strong 2 or 4 channel amp. Probably around 200ish watts per channel.
So has anyone done 8's? Or am I gonna be running into foot room issues? My car is an auto so I dont have to worry about the clutch or anything. And Im gonna get some junkyard threshold panels so I dont screw up my good ones.
YOu have an auto, you'll be golden.
Your car may do 13 sec @ 103 mph, but my car does 146db @ 35 hz.
Yup, I've got 6.5s down there and there's plenty of room yet.
Just a note here though, an 8 is going to have a hard time producing midrange sound. Which driver are you going with?
Im not sure really. I was going to ask for some suggestions.
I know how to hook everything up and what not. Im just not very familiar with brands and such.
How much mat resin body filler and what not do you guys think Ill need?
Maybe Ill go with a 6.5. I have been wanting those Optis for my doors. Might as well put them in kicks and not hack up the doors.
Cavis and Fires have the same threshold panel right?
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if your going with an 8 in the kickpod id make it a dedicated midbass driver. id find one that plays best off-axis so you dont have to have it pointed back and towards you. this will help allot with keeping the kickpod as small as possible. with that big a midbass driver your going to want to build a kick that is open on top and that goes up into your dash good enough that the sound coming out of it won't cancel out the sound in front of the driver. i dont think you will have the room to build a sealed enclosure, and if you build one that is too small for the driver that is sealed youlle likely end up losing a good majority of your midbass responce. the thresholds for the two cars are the same. just have to remember about your hood release on the drivers side.
as for how much resin youlle need. it depends on how good you are at fiberglassing. youlle problaby need about as much as in one of those smaller repair kits, a gallon will be more then enough. but me personally i'd just buy a gallon of each and be done with it.
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I was thinking the 8 would be mid bass and I could cross my door speakers higher.
when you fiberglass do you use a fabric instead of the cheap fiberglass fabric they give you?
You use fleece soaked in resin for shape and you put the glass over top of that with resin for strenght
sndsgood wrote:if your going with an 8 in the kickpod id make it a dedicated midbass driver. id find one that plays best off-axis so you dont have to have it pointed back and towards you. this will help allot with keeping the kickpod as small as possible. with that big a midbass driver your going to want to build a kick that is open on top and that goes up into your dash good enough that the sound coming out of it won't cancel out the sound in front of the driver. i dont think you will have the room to build a sealed enclosure, and if you build one that is too small for the driver that is sealed youlle likely end up losing a good majority of your midbass responce. the thresholds for the two cars are the same. just have to remember about your hood release on the drivers side.
You can seal kicks to the inside of the fender, too.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe Im biting off more than I can chew with the 8's.
inside the fender would be an optiion, but then you got to look into cutting openings into the area and then sealing things up. begines to be a bit more work then the majority of people want to do.
8's would be great, but they will take allot of work to really come our right. id say if you really want a 3-way setup with a dedicated midbass go with a 6.5/4/1 route. with a dedicated midbass you can get some good results with a 6.5" driver
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Where would I find some good 3 way passive crossovers? I doubt 3 way active is going to be easy.
With with the 6.5/4/1 route would I wanna keep them all in the same kick panel? Or could I do 6.5 and tweet in the kick and 4 in the door?
CDT sells at least one passive 3-way crossover. have no idea what their prices are, probably not cheap.
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TheSundownFire (JBOSB) wrote:Where would I find some good 3 way passive crossovers? I doubt 3 way active is going to be easy.
With with the 6.5/4/1 route would I wanna keep them all in the same kick panel? Or could I do 6.5 and tweet in the kick and 4 in the door?
The Lanzar Optix3b I'm using for my components will go up to 400hz for the subwoofer and in stereo which could be used in conjunction with the high pass off the deck to get the midbass bandpass. Crossover also has a normal bandpass and high pass for the midrange and tweeter. I don't think you'd go over 400hz for the midbass so it is doable, but I've got no experience in setting up a three way front stage other than on paper it looks like that crossover could work.
MY midbass doesn't go over 200Hz, so I suspect an 8 wouldn't either.
there are several companies out there that sell three way setups, dynaudio, mb quart i think focal maybe. cdt perhaps. have to check, i dont check brands every year so not sure whats out there but you should find several options and most of them will come with crossovers. id personally look for sets where the crossover is biampable so you can feed the midbass with a seperate signal and more power. as for the setup id try and get the 6.5 in the door if you can that way you can use the kicks to get the proper alignment of the mids. the mids will be more suseptible to a bad angle then the midbass will.
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How many watts of midbass should I be looking for to match up well with around 1500 watts? I dont want to end up being underpowered again like I am now.
I'm running 1200 rms to mah speakers. It's bliss.
Your car may do 13 sec @ 103 mph, but my car does 146db @ 35 hz.
I bet it is. I need to do some more research. I should try to keep the woofer mid and tweeter within 6 inches of each other right?
Should I do seperate chanbers within the kick for the tweeter and mid?
