I am looking for some help on putting a stereo into my 99 Sunfire GT. This is all really new to me. I want to run some component 6.5" in the front doors. As well as some tweeters. I have read and found that I can make an adapter using MDF, to go from the 4x6 to 6.5". What is going to be a good sounding 6.5" and tweeter that will fit with no issues (power windows). Also will the tweeters beable to be mounted into the stock location, without cutting. I see you can buy component sets, which come with crossovers and such? What does this do and is it needed?
I am also looking for some good 6x9's for the rear of the car, what do you suggest for speakers. I am not going to be running any subs, just want a good crisp sound, hoping to get a bit of mid/bass from the components, not looking to have mirror shaking bass.Just a "good" sound. Like i said I am new to all of this, maybe I am thinking totally wrong, for the sound I am lookign for. I am open to any suggestions.
I also just read about putting mid-bass 6x9, in the rear instead of the coaxial. With the full component set up front, and the 6x9 mid-bass speakers out back, how would that sound. I will be getting an amp to run everything along with a new deck, just need help with speaker set-up. Thanks Again!!!!
right now im running 6.5" jbl power series comps in my front doors...but im using alpine type r tweeters (had to cut door panel) they sound great...and i use to run jbl power series 6x9s in the rear but took them out. them too sounded very good....i recommend putting dynamat in your doors if your gonna upgrade...sounds much better
umm id say honestly your golden with anything other than walmart brand $20 speakers. Just pick up a set of decent speakers for the front and back. ( RF, JBL, Alpine to name a few) and just stick with the stock speaker dimensions. I know a lot of audiophiles on here( includin myself) would advise against it but bein a noob to the whole car audio scene will work in your favor. If you just simply upgrade your speakers, itll sound amazin to you. After doin that, maybe think about gettin into the modded car audio scene. again just a suggestion.
144db@38hz! It hurts so good !
Make sure you use a thinner MDF like 1/4 or 1/2 inch. I tried 3/4 with my coaxials and the door panel wouldnt fit over it.
Get an 4 channel amp and amp them. A good set of speakers wont get you far if youre underpowering them using the internal amp in the head. But thats just my $0.02.
except for those are for putting 6.5s in 6.5 holes and not 6.5s into 4x6s.
couple things to look at. some people want to forgo a sub, but no matter what you do your going to be missing out on part of the music. you can get a great sounding system by just ditching the 6x9's and buying a single sub. you can still power everything witha good solid 4 channel amp, and now you will have all the frequencies in your music that were made to be there. and the money spent on 6x9s could get you a decent sized 10" sub for the same if not a small amount more.
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For your front speakers I would go with type r components, I have just basic type s's in my front now, but im planning on switching to the r's. Ive also found that the type s rears sound good and work great. However Im running my speakers on an amp, not headunit power, so idk how they would sound off headunit power. I good website to check out if you want to buy online is woofersect.com, they got tons of stuff for really good prices. I bought my entire system from there.
David
What expertise and experience do you have David to say that Alpine Type-R components are going to be his best bet? Do you have any experience with mounting depth, the other choices out there? Or do you just like your Type-S coaxials, and like Alpine so think Type-R components are the end all in their price range? Seriously.... Your post has a very "unknowing noob giving advie" aroma.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
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I said no where in there about them being the god send of all component speakers, I was just giving my opinion on what I would use and what Im upgrading to. Yeah I'll admit im a lil biased twords Alpine, but thats because thats what I have in my car and all that I have really heard. So I didnt want to say oh go and buy this type of speaker without any prior knowledge about the speaker, or not hearing it for that matter. All I was saying is I like how my setup sounds, yes I know he may have differant tastes, but I was simply giving another option. Yeah sure i may not know a whole lot about other speakers because Im not familiar with them, but I do know Alpine is a safe choice for a good sounding speaker. Maybe you should share some of your expertise/experience.
David
Well I can appreciate that you are only recommending things you have heard.
Not many people can do that. Some people get on a big bandwagon and just recommend what they see being recommended.
Now to the OP. Your budget is going to be the biggest factor. I would personally suggest just getting a single 10 inch sub to get all those low frequencies you will miss without a sub. You would be very surprised. I know all the bone head kids running around town just trying to piss off the neighbors with their ghetto installs and loud subs make you think subs are only good for tons of bass, but if used properly, they are to fill in all the low notes. the bass drum hits and bass guitar sounds you miss with just normal speakers.
Again, BUDGET is a huge factor. I could recommend the best set of $80 components out there, or a truly phenomenal set that will blow your mind with the right power plant behind them that cost $1000. It's all in what you can afford.
Now keep in mind, for a well rounded system, the easiest way to do it right as a beginner in this hobby would be this:
After-market head unit with at least 2, preferring 3 sets of pre-outs. Also whatever features you want in your head unit.
A good set of 6.5" components up front with a 2-channel amp to power them properly.
A decent sub to fill in those low notes and of course a nice little amp to power it(them).
and all the miscellaneous stuff like the sub enclosure and wiring that you will need.
You might be going (what about rears?) well in short, the money you spend on rears can go into making sure everything else is as high quality as it can be. Rear speakers are going to cause more issues with tuning a nice system for the first time than anything. More speakers does not equal better or more sound. You want to focus your money, tuning, and power on the fronts... where you sit
You will need some adapters to fit the 6.5 inch woofer in the door. Easy to find online for sale from anyone who works with wood and builds enclosures. Hell if you find the right person to build a sub box, they might be able to make you some baffles for free.
Now to answer your question about exactly what a component set is:
It is fairly simple really. The 6.5" mid-woofer is for the frequencies that fall into the "mid range". Fairly simple concept. For example, 50-500hz.
The tweeter is for everything higher than the 6.5" can play.
The crossover is a little circuit board with caps and resistors and coils and such to make sure all the frequencies get filtered properly. So the tweeters get the frequencies they are built to best handle, and the mids are getting their frequencies. This way no one driver is struggling to play too high or low of a frequency. They are built to be optimal in certain ranges, and the crossover keeps them there.
Now the sub picks everything under the mid's capabilities. For a fairly broad and simple example
Tweeter 500hz+
Mid 60-500hz
Sub 60hz and below
Now without a sub, no good 6.5" speaker is going to fill in below 60. Most are going to fall off hard after 80-100. Do you really want to lose all that range by not investing a little bit into a subwoofer?
My best advice is work with your budget as a goal, find the best way to get everything in that budget. If you can't get everything and need to do it piece by piece, so be it, but don't skip on quality, or skip on any part of the system if you can help it. Do it right the first time, this hobby get's expensive!
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
In my family we teach that boys have a God-stick and girls have a Shame Cave. -John Stewart
That's a pretty low cutoff for the mid, and a pretty low setting for a tweet.
it was a generic reference
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
In my family we teach that boys have a God-stick and girls have a Shame Cave. -John Stewart
