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Need some help with my system.
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:35 PM
Ok i have 2 12in jl w3v3 in a bassworks box. With a sony head unit( not sure on model but it gets the job done with the settings i need for now). A 1.5 frad volfenhagin capacitor( how ever you spell it). And a Power Acoustik 1920 sphere amp.

I know the amp ain't big enough and probably the box. Any way i'm looking to make it hit a lil hard with good sound. Looking to spend like 200 to 300 on a better amp or better box.

Thanks

Re: Need some help with my system.
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:39 PM
Re: Need some help with my system.
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:10 PM
i highly doubt it pushes 4000 watts... power acoustik is jsut another wannabe brand. It probably pushes 800-1000 watts maximum. Look into Sundown Amp, they push true and clean power, not cheap crap that you will spend money on and need to buy another a few years from now. Save your money and buy a good amp you can trust. What gauge wiring are you running, caps don't do anything.



Re: Need some help with my system.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:55 AM
o i know caps don't really do nothing but it does hurt having it. And i know power acoustik is just a wannabe brand but i've never had any problems with any of there amps. That is the only reason i showed that amp, plus they have decent looking amps. The specs on that amp is it is a mono block amp, stable at 1 ohm which i will probably run at. It is also rated at 2200watts at 1ohm, 1700watts as 2ohms, and 1200watts at 4 ohms.

Now i know there underrated but it should be more than 800watts to 1000watts. Which would make it some what of a good buy.

And i believe it is 4gauge for the big 3, then all the way back to the block where it splits off to the cap and amp. And caps might not do nothing but ican notice a difference with it in long bass hits. Plus i've had it hooked up for a year and don't plan on removing it.
Re: Need some help with my system.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:56 AM
1. ditch the cap. having a cap can 'hurt' your electrical system. Once they discharge, which takes a second or two, they have to recharge. Well if your system was struggling enough to begin with, now it has the added stress of charging the cap. Start with Big 3. If that doesn't help, bigger alternator.

2. stay away from power acoustik. Thats great you had good luck with them but they're garbage, period. $220 for 1700rms @ 2 ohms, seriously now? Look at any reputable brand and see what they charge for that type of wattage. You get what you pay for and besides, you have nice enough subs why throw some @!#$ty amp on them.

3. "do it right, or do it twice"

IMO
Re: Need some help with my system.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:12 PM
ight geeze calm down. I already have the big three and it is 0 gauge instead of 4. As for struggling i don't think it is but not sure( just know i don't have a lot of voltage drop). As for the cap i understand what you mean by charging but i also like the fact of knowing how much voltage is being drawn because of the read out. Although i know it isn't clear accurate. But as to not doing nothing i think it did, but have no way to prove it.

As for power acoustik being junk i don't really know cept for i have owned several. And the first few i owned was junk and they wouldn't stand behind it. But the last two i bought from millionbuy had a 1 year manufacture plus another 2 years. They have been great but can understand your point about being junk and over rated. Do to mostly that 3 or 4 years ago they were. But there quality seems to be improving. Also some people go for looks plus power. That is like all these people around me with audiobahn flamed series amps that paid big bux'z for just looks.

Now i'm not saying your wrong or to start a argue meant. Like i said i was just looking and i know at 2 ohms it probably won't do the 1700rms. Right now i have a 1920 watt hooked up to the jl's. which there stated rms is somewhere around 370x2 at 4ohms. And bridged mono is 880 a 4 ohms.

Now as to what the amp really does i don't know. I need a better amp as i stated. And looking for recommendations not this is junk or this and not giving any help either besides do it right or do it twice. Honestly how does that help me out at all? Besides telling me to do it right. I just need help with a good bang for the buck amp between 200 and 400 shipped. Liking to stay as low as possibly but be better than what i got.

Oh andy i checked out that company but never heard of them before. I'd like to know more about them and why you recommended it.
Re: Need some help with my system.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:53 PM
alright i would rather go with jl or similar qaulity. I can get a jl 1000/1 monoblock amp for a decent price locally. Would that be to much for the w3's?
Re: Need some help with my system.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:37 PM
no


"I did it because I wanted to see what it would look like. You should be greatful that I even told you that it would look good. If your to dumb to use photoshop and change the color of your own car then you don't need to see it changed. I'm not going to give my work away. I'll sell the pic to you though for $15."-Adam Kalin

^^JBO is about not being that guy
Re: Need some help with my system.
Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:08 PM
Luke Crites wrote:ight geeze calm down. I already have the big three and it is 0 gauge instead of 4. As for struggling i don't think it is but not sure( just know i don't have a lot of voltage drop). As for the cap i understand what you mean by charging but i also like the fact of knowing how much voltage is being drawn because of the read out. Although i know it isn't clear accurate. But as to not doing nothing i think it did, but have no way to prove it.


well with the power acoustik amp your system probably isn't struggling because that amp isnt producing what it says, and isnt drawing the power you'd think it would. Its very rare that they're ever an actual asset to a system, they usually do cause more harm than good. And as for wanting the voltage read out, they sell voltage gauges. Sell the cap to some HS school kid, then take that money and buy a voltage meter and put the rest towards a nicer amp.

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Now as to what the amp really does i don't know. I need a better amp as i stated. And looking for recommendations not this is junk or this and not giving any help either besides do it right or do it twice. Honestly how does that help me out at all? Besides telling me to do it right. I just need help with a good bang for the buck amp between 200 and 400 shipped. Liking to stay as low as possibly but be better than what i got.

seriously? Any reputable name brand amp, its not that hard. JL, Kicker, rockford, boston, the list goes on. Why do you think those companies sell 1000 watt rms amp for around $1000 when some company like power acoustik sells something supposedly 4 times are powerful for less than half the price? You get what you pay for. You want to be cheap, you're going to get cheap, period. So spend the extra money to get something nice, something you won't need to do over a few years down the road again like you are right now.
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Oh andy i checked out that company but never heard of them before. I'd like to know more about them and why you recommended it.


I don't know much about them, but from what I've heard they're nice. You're going to come across a lot of companies that you havent heard of, or maybe some like some cheap off brand. There are a lot more good companies that make excellent products other than the ones you see at best buy or circuit city. Just to name a few, rainbow, RE, Fi Audio, focal, etc. but I'm sure you get the point. Just browse around audio forums and see what people run.
Re: Need some help with my system.
Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 PM
ok well i can get it for 350 and theres nothing wrong with it. Would you buy it? Also i know the lil papers that came with my w3's says something like 600watts is the max and after that it voids the warranty. I know some people say jl puts out more than what they say they do.

So will the amp under power the subs? or big enough? If so what amp does someone reccomend.
Re: Need some help with my system.
Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:17 PM
Threads like this make me want to piss all over my face and spank a hyena.




Re: Need some help with my system.
Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:27 PM
x2 except the hyena part.



Re: Need some help with my system.
Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:53 AM
sorry about getting back to you so late...had to find the post.

Sundown is a AWESOME amp company, they cost a lot, but I bet you will not have any problems with them. check out this linkSSA

they REALLY know their audio, they helped me out quite a bit. you can get a refurbished sundown 1500d for about 375, and they come with a 1 year warranty. a new one IIRC costs 470...ish. and comes with 5 year parts warranty. Just check that site out, they will help you build a complete setup.



Re: Need some help with my system.
Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:56 AM
oh and IMO, don't go blowing a ton of money on a system unles you are truly commited to it, and can see yourself going somewhere in life with it. For me, i just settled for a nice sounding amp/sub combo, nothing stupid expensive. Take that 900-1200 dollars you can spend on a system, and invest it into something you can use everyday and will get you somewhere.



Re: Need some help with my system.
Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:28 PM
Andy Gohs wrote:oh and IMO, don't go blowing a ton of money on a system unles you are truly commited to it, and can see yourself going somewhere in life with it. For me, i just settled for a nice sounding amp/sub combo, nothing stupid expensive. Take that 900-1200 dollars you can spend on a system, and invest it into something you can use everyday and will get you somewhere.


Best suggestion yet for the OP, I would suggest English classes at the local Sylvan.





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