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subs & amps
Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:56 PM
Just a quick question if you got a sub with an rms of 200wats 4ohm
do you want an amp with 200wats or
500 wats
which is better

i've gone to dealers and thay almost alway pick the more expensive one I just want to know which is better to use.

Thank-you for your help



Re: subs & amps
Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:39 PM
Quote:

i've gone to dealers and thay almost alway pick the more expensive one


thats your first problem. Of course they are going to tell you to get the more expensive brand.

If the sub is 200 RMS what is the rating for max? You want to fall in that range.
Re: subs & amps
Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:44 PM
mclonedogmcwad wrote:
Quote:

i've gone to dealers and thay almost alway pick the more expensive one


thats your first problem. Of course they are going to tell you to get the more expensive brand.

If the sub is 200 RMS what is the rating for max? You want to fall in that range.



the sub is 200/400W (RMS/PEAK) phoenix gold

ya dealers that why i ask here you guys are more noligable than the people selling the products


Re: subs & amps
Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:46 PM
I dont minde geting the more expensive amp but i want to know if it is the best one to go with with out looking at the price.


Re: subs & amps
Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:04 PM
If anyone can help it would be muchly appreciated I'm heading out tomorwo mornin to get my stuff


Re: subs & amps
Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:16 PM
300w 2ch or mono would do fine for what you have if u spend about 2 to 300 hundred for a good amp it is worth it instead of going cheap and it biting u in the ass later



Re: subs & amps
Monday, May 28, 2007 5:34 AM
^^ get some thing around 300 watts rms mono or 2 channel....i completely agree with Reds
Re: subs & amps
Monday, May 28, 2007 4:09 PM
Actually the dealers SHOULD go for the item with the highest mark-up to pose a high profit. Go for about 1 dollar a watt, it's not fool-proof, but it does work in most situations. So for a 300 watt amp, you should pay around 300 dollars, not 150. If you pay 150 dollars for an amp that puts out 300 watts, then the manufacturer took a few shortcuts into getting it to produce all that power with reliability that will, as stated, bite you in the ass later. Go grab a well known brand amp that will cost you about 300 dollars and puts out 300 watts, if you get the 500 then you are either going to blow your sub or pay a lot for wasted potential. Most amps are rated at 2 ohm. Also, most amps are rated at 2 OHMs since that is roughly twice the power it can put out at 4 ohm. Since your sub is 4 ohm, don't get an amp that is 300 watts at 2 ohm, get one that is 300 watts at 4 ohms. Otherwise, when you hook up your sub, you'll be maxing out your amp and only getting half of the potential. That, or grab another 4 ohm sub and wire them to 2 ohms at the amp and get the amp that says 300 watts at 4 ohms, and 600 watts at 2 ohms. Twice the sound with the cost of another sub.
Re: subs & amps
Monday, May 28, 2007 5:23 PM
1 dollar a watt? maybe 10-15 years ago. power is cheap these days.

what subwoofer is in question?


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Re: subs & amps
Monday, May 28, 2007 5:51 PM
I want to get a pheonix gold octain 10d

• 10d: 10 inch 8/2 ohm subwoofer
• Sensitivity: 90dB (1W/1M)
200/400W (RMS/PEAK)

and I was wondering what amp to go with either a

OCTANE-R 5.0:1
----------------------------
• High efficiency Class "AB" monoblock amplifier
• 18dB variable LP crossover
• 18dB variable subsonic filter
• Low Pass Level port (LPL)
• Dimensions: 12.675L x 10.875W x 2.25H
500W x 1 (2 ohm mono)
max power

OR A

OCTANE-R 2.0:1
----------------------------
• High efficiency Class "AB" monoblock amplifier
• 18dB variable LP crossover
• 18dB variable subsonic filter
• Low Pass Level port (LPL)
• Dimensions: 11.75L x 10.875W x 2.25H
200W x 1 (2 ohm mono)
max power

I just dont want to get somethin that is not good enough and on the other hand I dont want to get somethin that is to powerfull either.



Re: subs & amps
Monday, May 28, 2007 10:29 PM
In my experience, Its better to go with something that has a little more juice behind it, you don't need to set the gain all the way up or anything, and you can tune it to the sub... It wont strain the larger amp as much as a smaller one.

At the same time I dont have that much experience, so take my advise with a grain of salt, somone will be along to correct me or elaborate
Re: subs & amps
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:45 PM
Matt Linke wrote:In my experience, Its better to go with something that has a little more juice behind it, you don't need to set the gain all the way up or anything, and you can tune it to the sub... It wont strain the larger amp as much as a smaller one.

At the same time I dont have that much experience, so take my advise with a grain of salt, somone will be along to correct me or elaborate



I realy appreaciate you input ty verry much


And that gose for the rest ty for your input.

So I should spend the little extra and go with the 500 watt amp.


Re: subs & amps
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:49 AM
When powering subs (and most other speakers) you really wan't to go by the RMS rating. Overpowering a little doesn't hurt (better than not enough), just don't go too far, you should be able to go around 50 over and still have the amp cranked without any problems. As long as the peak power is in the ballpark you should be fine, but your best bet is to get as close to both as possable.



Re: subs & amps
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:12 PM
Justin&Lisa Barber wrote:
mclonedogmcwad wrote:
Quote:

i've gone to dealers and thay almost alway pick the more expensive one


thats your first problem. Of course they are going to tell you to get the more expensive brand.

If the sub is 200 RMS what is the rating for max? You want to fall in that range.



the sub is 200/400W (RMS/PEAK) phoenix gold

ya dealers that why i ask here you guys are more noligable than the people selling the products


If it's one sub, check the Ohms of the sub.. is it 4 ohm or 2 ohm, most are 4 ohm. If it's a 4 ohm sub, by itself (not a dual voice coil) look for amps that say "200 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms". If it's wired to 2 ohms, look for "200 watts RMS x1 at 2 ohms" on the amp.
Re: subs & amps
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:36 PM
get the first amp....just dont turn it up all the way...more like 3/4 of the way up....or dont set the gain too high. You should be fine with anywhere between 300- 500 watts....not more than that (rms that is)
Re: subs & amps
Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:59 PM
TY verry much for all your help I've got them just need to get my trunk done now. and put the system in.


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