i have these and i couldt see anything at night so i had to bought HID...
they suck without hid, even with hid they are not that bright!!
You gotta be careful if you get an HID kit though, some of the eBay projectors aren't made to withstand the heat that HID bulbs put off.
HID bulbs run cooler than a standard halogen...
wysiwyg wrote:i would say they bang, they don't really pound so much. but if
you want to bump, then they will bump and hit real hard and a lot good. 
LOL