Ok, so I got ripped off majorly. I bought a
15" JL Audio W3 Sub in a custom box for $100 from a "friend". It worked... for a week. The wires started popin out and the terminals fell off where they had been GLUED on. So booom.... out 100 bucks and no subwoofer.
So now its time to buy some new ones, I want two 15" but Im not looking for the biggest bass on the block. Enought to bump hard and play really good.. Im not looking to walk with some 15" Kicker L7 Solobarics pushing 1500watts each or anything.
So, I went to ebay to see what I could find. I fould
2 Volfenhag 15" DVC 1200watt max (600w RMS) brand new for $118.95 and $52.90 shipping. Do these sound like a good buy? Now keep in mind, I am not looking to spend a lot of money or get the best subs on the block... but I dont want crap either.
I was also looking at this
Dual 15" sealed box for $29.01 and $29.00 shipping. Seem like a good idea?
I am using a Alpine
MRP-M450 Amp atm and I will be using it to power these subs also... it may not push them to the max but it should make them bump good? It made the
JL Sub bump before it messed up.
Let me know if this is a good idea and if not what would you suggest? I dont want to spend much more than $200... $250 is max I would say for 1 or 2 15" subs and a standered box.
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
really none of those setups u named will get loud, or sound good for that matter. If your wanting to go cheap, get a Type R 15 and then build a box yourself. Dont go prefab!! That sealed box wont get loud at all. If your wanting "loudest bass on the block" then just get a single subwoofer, u dont really have enough power to be pushing 2 subs.
so you want a pair of 15s but nothing to perform hugely.... so you are going just for bragging rights or showing off? because honestly, the ones you named off are crap... why 15s if being realy loud isnt your cup of tea? sorry but 2 good sounding 15s and a box built to their specs to let them do their best is probly not gunna happen under 250.... sounds like you would be happy with junk anyway, probly just trying to show off from the sounds.... i wanna see more people come in here and say "i want some help finding the best prices and good ideas on what brands to look into for high quality sound to get the full effect of my music"... more of those people... less " i wanna show off and get stupid loud without any reguards to the quality of the sound while listening to some hack ass rapper with lots of bass to drone out the actual musical aspect".... spl competitors exempt, but they have a seperate mindset anyway.... maybe im extra irritable today, but i hate seeing cheap people wanting CRAP subs and not worry about sound quality cuz "yo doood, i totaly got a pair of 15s yo!" ....
needs to impliment a rolling eyes smiley*
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
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Try to take JL lightly.
He has a slight fetish for CDT speakers, and JL, eD, ID, AA subs.
What he was actually trying to say was buy alpine and you'll be good, lol.
In all seriousness, part of his post was true. If you buy the slightly more expensive stuff, you'll be happier in the end.
-Seth
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Justin Moore wrote:
So now its time to buy some new ones, I want two 15" but Im not looking for the biggest bass on the block. Enought to bump hard and play really good.. Im not looking to walk with some 15" Kicker L7 Solobarics pushing 1500watts each or anything.
So, I went to ebay to see what I could find. I fould 2 Volfenhag 15" DVC 1200watt max (600w RMS) brand new for $118.95 and $52.90 shipping. Do these sound like a good buy? Now keep in mind, I am not looking to spend a lot of money or get the best subs on the block... but I dont want crap either.
Let me know if this is a good idea and if not what would you suggest? I dont want to spend much more than $200... $250 is max I would say for 1 or 2 15" subs and a standered box.
Now, after reading the parts in bold you see that I specificaly said I do
not want crap... I simply want something good for the price of around $200. I am not looking for a TON of bass, but I do want a good bit. I am asking for your opinon what would be a good idea.... your post did not help at all. Now in the past post you have been helpfull with my questions... thats all im asking for. And also, I am NOT happy with junk. Hence why I was ranting about getting sold a peice of junk.
"i want some help finding the best prices and good ideas on what brands to look into for high quality sound to get the full effect of my music"... more of those people... less " i wanna show off and get stupid loud without any reguards to the quality of the sound while listening to some hack ass rapper with lots of bass to drone out the actual musical aspect"
One, I do want help finding good brands and good quality within my price range. Two, I dont want to just show off with no regards to quality... I cant stand low quality music.
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
oops, posted this post in the wrong thread(and btw wiz... you wish i liked little boys......)
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well, why MUST it be 15s then? because for your price range. i would definately step down in size(because of price constraints), and that will allow you to step UP in quality...
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Well pretty much any pair of 15's with a box for $250 or less will be crap to a lot of people here. You may like it............... for a while. Then you'll want to upgrade because you're sick of sloppy bass. So what do you do? Buy better equipment? Which will cost more $$? Won't you wish you had the $250 you spent on @!#$ woofers for that upgrade? Save your money. Or get a pair of 10's. If
these Stage 1 woofers even compare to the Stage 2 I have, you'll be more than happy with it. I was actually sitting at a gas station earlier tonight, and my friend wanted to check out my system, so I popped the trunk and showed him where all the boom was comin from. Then these two guys said their setup would eat mine. They had 2 15's, didn't even know the brand, and they sounded like absolute ass. They were loud, but sloppy as hell. I suppose the moral is: spend more money now, save money later. Because you'll want to upgrade.
I have a box that can fit one 15" sub that was custom made for the JL sub, but I belive I could make it work with another.
I have another box that can hold 2 12" subs.
I looked some more and found these:
2 Alpine Type S 12"
2 Alpine Type R 12"
1 Alpine Type R 15"
Now, my amp puts ot 220watts RMS on a 4 ohm load, and 400watts RMS on a 2 ohm load. How would I wire up that 1 15" sub and the 2 12" Type S? It says it has a Dual 2 Ohm coil on both... does that mean it goes on a 4 ohm load or would I be butting 400watts (amp = 400rms ~ 2ohm load) to both coils?
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
before we get into wiring methods, are you planning to run a 15and 2 12s??? as much as im trying to keep my cool and help without sounding like an ass, im getting irritated at this thread.
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One or the other... either a 15 or 2 12s
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
That 400 watt amp will prolly do one type S justice.
Definately not a type R 12 or 15 or a 15 and two 12's (i think thats what you were saying).
If you go alpine and keep your amp you need to go one S or one R (12 inch).
The R (15) needs a bigger amp.
-Seth
K, go two Type S but thats still gonna be underpowering them.
-Seth
that all depends on the coil configuration
But the type S 12" subs have dual 2 ohm coils at 300watts RMS and my amp does 400watt RMS at 2 ohm... wouldnt that be to much?
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
ok, in all honsety, in a perfect world, i would say a pair of dual 4 ohm coil subs wired down to 1 ohm, with a nice 1 ohm stable mono amp, BUT... if u wanna keep your current amp, putting out 400 watts RMS at 2 ohms, do this.... get 2 2ohm dual coil subs (or if they are single coil 2 4 ohm subs), wire them down to 2 ohms... i can get into the details of that later...400rms to a PAIR of type S is not going to overpower them, hell its less than theyre rated to handle., you will be fine. howabout a pair of single 4 ohm coil AA Assasins, i garuntee better all around sound and performance than type-s' Ascendanceaudio.com
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Nope.
The 300 is in total. The coils in a Type-S are 150 per coil.
Basically everything you read about amps is in total, not per coil. Like your amp will put out 400 RMS TOTAL. The subs will take 300 RMS TOTAL.
-Seth
wizkiddrummer wrote:
Basically everything you read about amps is in total, not per coil. Like your amp will put out 400 RMS TOTAL. The subs will take 300 RMS TOTAL.
yeah butu have to take into consideration box rise, coils heating, amp heating, and the voltage that the amp was rated at. the amp is rated 400wrms, and it wont put out that much on a stock electrical system because im pretty sure that amp is rated @ 14.4 volts.
Ok, so for the price, and quality of these subs and my amp... is this a good route to take? If so I would greatly appericate some info on how to wire these... I have one + and - terminals on my amp, mono, going to these 2 subs which will be in a dual 12" box with terminals for each sub.
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
And I do have plans to buy a bettter amp down the road when I get my new car.
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"Laying in bed one night, I said "Where did I go worng?". Then I heard a voice say "This is going to take a while..."
This is what I would personally do if I was in ur position.
But a Type-R DVC (dual voice coil) 4-Ohm..
12 inch if you want it louder
10 inch if you want it tighter
and then you will wire it like...
And for further reference, that link is
here.
If you think about stepping up later, get a bigger amp and it's easier to work with. A 600-800ish watt amp will do a Type-R better justice and then you can think more about running 2 subs if you want.
-Seth
ok, lets not take minute details of a system that will be fairly low budget, and installed by a fairly new person to car audio, ok anthony? and who the hell are you and where did u come from? dont contradict anything i say, dont try to, dont attempt to prove me wrong or talk back at me, and just dont talk.... half of me wants to appologize early for being snappy, because the other half of me is annoyed to no end right now.... let me simplify some things... and try to get you the most bang for your buck, and also allow some upgrade room... you have 400 RMS mono at 2 ohms to work with, you want 2 12s, a single 15 or 2 15s on a low budget... A GENERIC PRE FAB BOX IS GOING TO RUIN THE ATTEMPT AT GETTING GOOD SOUND... THE BOX IS A BIG FACTOR.
and to simplify your budget minded search for the best sound for cheap......
go to ascendantaudio.com buy 2 12 inch Asassins
THEN, go to woodlawncabinetry.com and ask them to build you a sealed box to 2 12 inch AA Asassins
THEN, you wire both posatives together and both negatives together from each sub to your amp, to present a 2 ohm load (halving the impendance of each subs 4 ohm coil),
THEN get someone who knows a bit more about car audio to help you tune it...if u gotta go to a local reputable audio shop they probly wont charge a whole lot just to help you tune it.
i think im done for now, untill another stupid comment is made, or crap spews from someone elses mouth
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ok, that wiring diagram wiz posted is good, if u get a pair of single coil subs, its the same as wiring up a single dual coil sub, accept each of the 2 coils are on seperate subs rather than on the same sub.
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