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Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 2:12 PM

I just picked up a 12" JL audio W7 and im going to build a FG box for it but i want to mount it (inverted) ?? i think thats right but if not then i mean like this


so my question is will it not sound as good? is there anything special i should know before i do it like.. a best way to aim the sub, things like that? Or should i just mount it normal and be happy?

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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 2:58 PM
should sound fairly the same. Might get a little bit lower, as the box will appear slightly larger to the subwoofer due to the speaker not displacing air in the box.

Another factor is that you might hear air venting out the drivers vent pole and other cooling areas. Not the coolest sound.

I have done it to a few drivers. Just becuase it looked good. But ide say keep it non inverted for the W7.


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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 3:01 PM
the rear of the sub moves just as much air as the front, just make sure your polarity is correct, you'll be pulling instead of pushing.

Should sound the same.


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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 3:04 PM
Umm inverting a w7 might be abit tuff unless you mount it firts then build the box over it..doesnt the suround go over the screws? phil
Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 3:30 PM
Alex Lindeman wrote:the box will appear slightly larger to the subwoofer due to the speaker not displacing air in the box.

Another factor is that you might hear air venting out the drivers vent pole.



2 good points, but I have never really run into a situation where going bigger made a noticable difference in sound. If the box is sealed, you should be fine as long as the dimensions are relatively close. $.02.






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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 4:12 PM
Philly D wrote:Umm inverting a w7 might be abit tuff unless you mount it firts then build the box over it..doesnt the suround go over the screws? phil


if i invert the sub then i will make it so the bottom of the box is removable. if i don't then i wont worry about it


thanks guys keep any suggestions coming











Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 4:59 PM
uh, yes the box will be larger, but you aren't putting it into an already built box, so that can be factored in.

otherwise, you won't notice any difference, especially in a trunk

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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 8:01 PM
If its just the one sub then your fine... but if you have more than one sub in an enclosure.. the polarity on the inverted sub has to be reversed.. otherwise the subs will cancel each other out and you wont move any air at all.
Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 8:41 PM
Mechanical noise.



Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 8:44 PM
Mechanical noise won't be a facotor is he's running it in the trunk...


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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 8:45 PM
Well, I was thinking that if he's building a fancy moulded enclosure that he might end up having it open at shows.............

Maybe I'm just crazy.




Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Monday, September 25, 2006 9:11 PM
BradSk88 wrote:Well, I was thinking that if he's building a fancy moulded enclosure that he might end up having it open at shows.............

Maybe I'm just crazy.

then it'll sound like crap no matter how he has them, lol.

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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:16 AM
^^^^ LOL so true


thanks guys i think you answered all my questions
and of course i will post pics during and after i build it









Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:00 PM
I've had my subs inverted for close to 4 years now. Mine sounds awesome. I had one guy tell me that i'm loosing some sound having them that way. But I cant tell. To it looks SO much sicker



Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:31 PM
eh your not losing any sound and most likely any noise from the air moving over the basket won't make it into the cabin anyway.


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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:37 PM
I was doing a isobaric set up with 4 10's back in 1991. Back of a camaro and people thought I had two 12's or one 15' sub.
I say do it and tell us how it turned out. i don't think you would be disappointed.
Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:45 AM
I will start ASAP










Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:21 AM
when i had my wall with the 4 15's we inverted 2 of them, it doesn't change the sound as bass is non directional and the only problem i had with any noise is the plastic covers on the magnets rattled a lil bit



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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:30 PM
Freak of Nature(1loudcavy) wrote:when i had my wall with the 4 15's we inverted 2 of them, it doesn't change the sound as bass is non directional and the only problem i had with any noise is the plastic covers on the magnets rattled a lil bit



im sure that wasnt the only thing rattling lol


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Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:46 AM
sndsgood wrote:
Freak of Nature(1loudcavy) wrote:when i had my wall with the 4 15's we inverted 2 of them, it doesn't change the sound as bass is non directional and the only problem i had with any noise is the plastic covers on the magnets rattled a lil bit



im sure that wasnt the only thing rattling lol



LOL same thing i was thinking










Re: Inverted sub? sound as good? any tips?
Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:52 PM
true....we did a lil trick, we didnt finish the surround for the enclosure so when you open 1 door and close the other and open the trunk(which wasn't sealed off) the pressure jumped quite a bit, the door that was closed sounded and looked like it was gonna fall off the car, it really impressed poeple, i thought it was funny



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