i found a 10" SE sub for cheap and might be getting it and i want to know if any one is running a 12" sub with a 10" sub. I will in the long run be getting one more of each (2 10" and 2 12" total) to add them in a sealed box as a rear seat delet. just wondering if i would need to do anything, worry about anything, and if it would be a waste of money to put both togeather.
The 10 will might it tight, the 12 will make it low
If you can, you might want to Low-Pass the 12 to only handle frequencies below what the 10 can do
im really not up to speed to some poeples standerds ... meaning i semi understand what you are saying. Parts you can name off that i can get?
Brad, stop giving audio advice...NOW!
ok, running 2 different subs, especialy 2 different subs of different sizes will do nothing but sound like complete crap, they will perform differently, they will have major cancelation issues and all around HORRIBLE sound... its not worth it, pick one, stick to it, if you want more output later, get another sub THE SAME AS THE ONE YOU ARE RUNNING.....
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
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ok battle of this hole thing i will sit this out and keep reading what others say!
yeah because my educated advice means nothing? * rolling my eyes*... i seriously suggest staying away from trying to run a bunch of different sized subs... i guess i dont need to get in depth anymore than saying that because it appears if you dont hear exactly what you want, you dont accept it...so i wont waist anymore of my time trying to help
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
I just bought a 20 inch widescreen ultrasharp flat pannel..I'm going to have to subscribe to the high quality porn places now......damn
dude i hear you and not dissing you on saying i dont believe you. i could care less what people tell me what to and not to do. i dont have the 10 in sub so it doesn't matter!
I know your advice is very helpful and i wont get it just because you said that i still want to see what other people will say about it. MAYBE JUST MAYBE some one might now a little more then you. And sorry to say ... but it sounds more like you throwing a fit more then me because i didn't say thank you very much i will fallow your advice 100%.
please dont tell me this BS!
im not trying to throw a fit, or saying i know more than anyone... just giving educated advice and none of what i said is bs
but hey, wait for others to chime in, its cool man, i wouldnt take advice from a SINGLE person on a forum if i was new to something asking questions either
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
I just bought a 20 inch widescreen ultrasharp flat pannel..I'm going to have to subscribe to the high quality porn places now......damn
I personally would go with two 10's and two 15's cuz then you're getting all the bass. 12's give more of a mixture between the two but don't hit the extremes like you would be getting if you had 10's and 15's. Just my 2 cents
yeah.. dont run different sub sizes or even different sub models.
It would do nothing but sound bad, I have friends and people I know that have tried it and they hit at different times, have different reactions to the power, different freqs.. just a bad idea
Run the one 10" RE with a couple hundred watts will be better than one of each size and brand
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ok so rigth now i have one 12" SE sub ... should i sell it and get 4 10" subs? i guess i know im going to get asked what kind of bass i want ... load and muddy or crisp bass. i want NICE sounding bass like crisp but i still want it loud! if i can get that from a 10" im going that route. 15's aren't an option.
Jeddy, you dont seem to know what you are talking about, seriously reconsider spreading false info and random myths without any audio experience to back it up... PLEASE... i hate seeing anyone getting bad info!
now as for size.. size is less of a factor with the sound quality u get... the enclosure, size, and type and tuning frequency(if going ported), all effect the sound quality HUGELY
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
I just bought a 20 inch widescreen ultrasharp flat pannel..I'm going to have to subscribe to the high quality porn places now......damn
^^ listen to this man kyle, he knows what hes talkin about, unlike a lot of others i see posting... even i coulda told you mixing subs is a bad idea...
wysiwyg wrote:i would say they bang, they don't really pound so much. but if
you want to bump, then they will bump and hit real hard and a lot good. 
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Experience:
in my golf, I have an 8" kicker L7 in my center console right in front of my shifter with alpine type R 6.5" component sets in the doors and rears. Everybody told me that the sub pointing at me would sound aweful and it woudl sound even worse when I built more enclosure into the back for my 2 12" l7s.
It sounded increadible with just the 8". Now I have a temporary bandpass box with a 10" kicker pro comp in it. Together it sound terrific with a very tight pucnh from the sealed 8" and deep lows from the rear. With propper phasing I made it work out very well.
Maybe it doesn't live up to the standards of serious SQ competition, but I absolutely love the quality I am getting out of my system right now.... it's fantastic. I blast my system everywhere I go and everybody loves it. With the phasing set correctly, people that have never ridden in my car think that the 8 is the only sub and are amazed at the bass it produces... go figure.
I agree, on paper it should sound terrible but you never know how it is really going to turn out until you do it.
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its been done and its not that it will sound " horrible" its just your not getting the benifit of both subs your basically getting half the benifit of both subs. kinda like making a baby with a hot girl who's stupid as a rock and a ugly guy who is a rocket scientist. your thinkging your going to have a really good looking kid who's a genius but in reality you end up with an ugly kid like me who's dumb as a rock.
mixing sizes doesnt gain you anything. both subs will play the bass tone diffrently as in the 10" may be +3db at 50hz where as the 12 may be +3db at say 55hz. your not gaining anything. now two 12" subs would both be +3db at 55hz so you get that bump wich sounds twice as loud. (this is just a example) people will say yeah youlle get the tight bass of a 10 and the low bass of a 15 but honestly if you build the box properly a 12 can be just as tight and the 10 will be just as low.
in minions case he is getting help in the sound because he put the 8" up front wich is helping him have upfront bass wich is desirable for a realistic soundstage but i'd gaurentee if he had just 3-12" versus 2 12" and a single 8, he'd have more bass and it would be a bit more accurate there are allot of people in sound qualty comps that have subs in the back and a smaller sub up front in the dash, but when they are getting judged for sound quailty they will completly turn the rear subs off and just have the single sub up front. that should tell you something.
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JLAudioCavalier(1bad02cav) wrote:Brad, stop giving audio advice...NOW!
ok, running 2 different subs, especialy 2 different subs of different sizes will do nothing but sound like complete crap, they will perform differently, they will have major cancelation issues and all around HORRIBLE sound... its not worth it, pick one, stick to it, if you want more output later, get another sub THE SAME AS THE ONE YOU ARE RUNNING.....
God damn you're a touchy kid.
From what I read, I though He WAS GOING TO USE a 10 and a 12, until he can get one of each. I was giving him something he can use. Crossovers are built for just that, mixing speakers of different sized / frequency ranges, and if crossed over low enough, you could use the 12" to simply pick up the frequencies below what a 10 can do. Of course, using a 10 is kinda of pointless in this application since the 12 would cover most of the bass tones, and the 10 would only cover the higher tones that would make it directional and bad sounding.
The 'tight and low' comment was sarcasm, but looking back at it, and can see it's not very obvious
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ok well then im sticking with the 12" SE.
chris ... i was waint for you to get on msn but nope never showed.
a home made chocolate chip cookie will suffice brad, thanks
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
I just bought a 20 inch widescreen ultrasharp flat pannel..I'm going to have to subscribe to the high quality porn places now......damn
Jason pointed out what i was about to say about a sub upfrount, it help's the soundstage out.
also with a good sub it dosent matter if you get a 10, 12, 15, or 18 you can make them sound alike. the larger sub might go a little lower if you look at the spec's but it's not anything you can hear. 99% of the time it's the box and the way everything is set.
long story short don't mix different size sub's and it dosent matter if you set a crossover different.
ok jlaudiocavalier and sweetnloud ... maybe one of you two can tell me if this will work nicely or if it needs some tweeking.
So fare i plan on getting 4 SE 12" subs which need 1.8-2 cubic feet ported per sub (8 cubic feet ) i want to have it in a rear seat delete were it spans from window to window and a foot away from the front seats. then have more added on in the trunk to make that amount. I hopefully will have enough room in the trunk to have a air bag suspension but if not ill have to go coilovers down the line. Tehre will be one port in the middle of the 4 subs (2 on one side and two on the other). MOST of this will be made out of fiberglass with 2x2 bracing and mesh to give it make it strong to hold all 80 pounds of subs, probly the same or so in amps.
Should i do along this route to port it or should i have it in a sealed box?
Trust me, you're not going to have room in the trunk for air. I have 8.2 cubes worth of wholesome box lovin and you can barely fit anything back there. Maybe a jujube.
it would be rear seat delet + trunk! it will all be fiberglassed so it wont be as much space consuming as it would be with MDF board.
i have about 6" behind my box and its right around 8 cubes after wood displacment and i cut out everything i could to make the box as tall and wide as i could.
if you want to use 4 se's try to put them in the back seat i have had mine for over 3 years now and they like 3 cubes 800-1000 watt's apeace.
what type of amp are you goin to run? you might be better off with 2 and 1600-2000 watt's. trust me you shirt and pant's will move liek crazy and it will hurt on the low notes.
i want it to hit like a son of a *itch and i was thinking eather hifonics amps or soundstrem (sp?)
any other options that will get me 1400 total watts at 2 ohms (so i dont over heat the amp) ?
