hey guys just wanted to say i got my 3500 started (and continued to run) last nnight with the help of ld9stunner. i wanted to say thanx for all the help with the passlock problems i was havin. its a 04 malibu 3500 bolted to a 90cav hm282. running on 99 grand am pcm,and injectors and a few other 3400 parts and crank trigger from wot tech. i havent takin it for a ride yet but ill try to get some pics up this weekend.

You never post @!#$ like this without pictures. And you never talk about your successful swap without video!

.......yeah...i need to soo this...we have an '05 malibu with the 3.5 and if she ticks me off one more time about me buying stuff for mine im gonna swap the motor into the 'fire(maybe not,but it's a thought).....i can tell you that that thing will move !!!!!!




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ray gardner wrote:hey guys just wanted to say i got my 3500 started (and continued to run) last nnight with the help of ld9stunner. i wanted to say thanx for all the help with the passlock problems i was havin. its a 04 malibu 3500 bolted to a 90cav hm282. running on 99 grand am pcm,and injectors and a few other 3400 parts and crank trigger from wot tech. i havent takin it for a ride yet but ill try to get some pics up this weekend.

Do you have the ability to tune on it? The VSS differnce between th 90 transmission and with the 99 computer I'm thinking might throw your speedometer off. So you may need to make some adjustments.





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right now i have th 1990 hm282 tranny in there and it has a cable speedo so now i have no vss. i have a 93 z24 tranny made by nvg im gonna swap in wen i piggy back the cav pcm to run the gauges and it would be the same as a quad four nvg swap. right now i have no gauges.

i wanna start the piggybacking soon anyone know wat the pcm uses to drive the tach? wat from the ignition needs to be hooked to the cav pcm for the tach.

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ray gardner wrote:i wanna start the piggybacking soon anyone know wat the pcm uses to drive the tach? wat from the ignition needs to be hooked to the cav pcm for the tach.

ICM wire, track that down from the module and try it...



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There is a white wire that comes off the 3x00 ICM which is specifically for a tach. IIRC, the 99 GA PCM does not use it, so this may work to get the signal to the factory PCM so that it will run the tach. Somone correct me if I'm wrong here.

Quick question Ray: What method did you use to level the engine? It's hard to tell from the pics.

i lifted the cav mount side up a inch with a peice of 3inch square stock.

im havin a lil prob. i have a few codes and it runs rough. i had one one for the maf but turns out wen u actually plug it in it clears that right up. but i have one for the map (think i have a loose wire or bad feed) but i have one for a tranny problem (musta missed somethin tuning) and one that says aux power input and aux power output? could the tranny or power codes be causing problems? i have the codes at home that are more specific.

yeah that engine doesn't look level at all is it accually a 3500 or is it s 3400 with the 3500 intake manifold????



JBO since July 30, 2001

the engine sits level must just be the pics. if i put a straight edge agross from fender to fender its even all the way accross and its A FULL 3500 not a uim or top swap the WHOLE ENGINE is out of a 04 malibu. i figured if a 3400 can be swapped into a cav and a 3400 can be swapped ito other 3400 cars why not just go for it.

yeah something doesn't look level for sure, alt and front valve cover show its out maybe its the camera angle why didn't you just cut down the engine bracket would have been less work then welding in a peice or steel.

you have some wires there that aren't loomed either might wanna get those covered up

also i thought you piggy backed the PCMs why are you running a water temp gauge if you have it piggy backed???? factory gauge should work



JBO since July 30, 2001

The engine might be level, but it may be back too far on the passenger side. The pics look way to far off for it to be the pic. Did you take measurements so that you could position the bracket in the correct spot front to back once you placed it on top of the spacer? Not trying to give you crap or anything, but if that engine is not sitting straight, it will most likely cause your CV joints to wear prematurely, or worse. A quick test is that if the engine is properly positioned, you should be able to install your AC dryer and the alternator will clear it. If not, you should seriously consider re-mounting your bracket.

or purchase a set of mounts from this guy what was his user name. COUGH ^^^^^^^^^ COUGH

how are those mounts coming along



JBO since July 30, 2001

the motor does set level i can see how it looks cocked in the pick but im sure its not. the mount is back in the same place it came from its just bad pics. the wires arnt all loomed yet because i havent piggy backed yet so just holdin off on wrappin it all up till the 2 pcms r done. the coooloant temp is just wat i stuffed in the hole while i waited for my volts and air/fuel to get here. i think i have a loose wire for the map sensor cux the idles all over the place and its thowin a map low input code. i could of cut the mount to work but for some reason liked the spcer beter.

NOTa2_4 wrote:or purchase a set of mounts from this guy what was his user name. COUGH ^^^^^^^^^ COUGH

how are those mounts coming along

LOL. Actually, while I appreciate the plug, at this point it would be more work for him, since he welded a spacer in.

I'm hoping to hear from the shop today that they're done. I'm really hoping to have them by the end of the week. I'll post updates in the GP when I get info.

Ray, as long as it's all properly positioned, good deal. I just wouldn't want to see anyone put this much work into a swap, and then have problems because of an alignment mistake. I hope you get your electrical issues taken care of soon!

measure from the intake to the rad support at each end cuz it looks way off

ima take a few new pics lol im tellin u guys the motors level and straight.

so i cant find the foot in mouth face but i need it. wen the car was on jack stands the motor sat level and sqaure. however it in now off a lil. i can straightnen it fairly easy but ima get it running good first. the pics do make it look alot worse than it is and i feel comfortable with it for now. sorry to all who pointed it out and thanx for makin me take a second look.

hey mane it happens were here not to critize but to help. anyone that tackels something out of the norm is good for this site.

its dreamers that ask simple questions that have been beat to death that get to me



JBO since July 30, 2001

ray gardner wrote: so i cant find the foot in mouth face but i need it. wen the car was on jack stands the motor sat level and sqaure. however it in now off a lil. i can straightnen it fairly easy but ima get it running good first. the pics do make it look alot worse than it is and i feel comfortable with it for now. sorry to all who pointed it out and thanx for makin me take a second look.

Hey man, it's better to catch it now than find out the hard way when something goes wrong when the car is on the road. No need to apologize, like Matt pointed out, we're just trying to help.

By the way, just a bit of advice when trying to position the engine: don't use a level unless you've first checked the level of the engine bay where the car is sitting. Taking measurements from points on the car is the way to go.