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2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:37 AM
Hi, I have a 2001 four-door "VLX" (same as the LS, but with a 2.2) and I've noticed that, ever since I've been driving the car, it seems sluggish to rev between 2000 and 2500 rpm, even with the clutch pedal depressed. It also gives me a lot of vibration through the pedal, and the car seems like it is "jerking" and shaking when I let off the gas in that rev range.

Sometimes, however, it isn't - especially when cold, throttle response is clean and it revs like I'd expect from a motor. I don't get a CEL when it is laggy.

It's fairly low mileage (66k km) so I'm hoping that the problem is something simple like a sensor, ignition coil or dirty injectors, but I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem. From searching I can see that other people have the same problem as me (on 99s and 98s) but no answer is posted.

My guesses so far:
- Fuel filter? I'm hoping it's not this one.
- Vacuum leak in the air intake hose? I think this would affect the entire rev range if it were letting in unmetered air.
- Spark plug wires
- Spark plugs (though they should be good for much longer, according to the GM maintenance schedule)
- Ignition coil (not sure where this is to check, have to refer to Haynes)
- Gunk built up somewhere

Thanks in advance.

Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:48 AM
VLX huh..........Never heard of one.

And why don't you hope it could be a fuel filter?

The fuel filter is the easiest on that list.



Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:03 AM
I think the VLX might have been a Canadian-only trim that dealerships offered; GM Canada references it in their spec sheets, but the US doesn't and neither does the VIN.

I don't really want it to be the fuel filter since I'll have to get under the car to get at it, but I'm not opposed to changing it if that's what needs to be done.
Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:51 AM
Gotcha.


Crazy Canadians.



Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:59 AM
Any more ideas here? I was thinking of replacing the MAP (MAF?) sensor, since it looks fairly easy.

Thanks
Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:27 PM
From experience with the 2.2 it's probably in need of new plugs and wires. Usually it's pretty much constant misfire and not in a specific spot in the RPM range, but it might not just be that bad yet. Seems to get worse if you get into the throttle more? Check Engine light flashing?





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Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:47 PM
No - there's no check engine/service light illuminated when this happens, and the problem seems to go away once you get out of that specific range, though it's hard for me to tell.

I pulled the plugs awhile ago and they don't look fouled, but that doesn't mean they (or the wires) are good.
Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Friday, August 07, 2009 7:01 AM
It continued doing it during my commute today, but it acted like normal (smooth revs, good throttle response, no excessive 'compression braking' feel in the pedal) for awhile near the end.

It's done this a few other times; I'm not doing anything particularly different other than stopping (letting the car return to idle) and then starting again, and it doesn't fix the problem every time I start and stop. This might be a red herring, though.
Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Monday, August 10, 2009 4:51 PM
i experience something that may be similar to what you've got going on... my engine acts up when the rpms reach 3200 which is around the speed of 70-75mph. when my engine "stumbles" the rpms drop down just a bit and the temp gauges drops as well... if i stay under 3200rpm, nothing, if it starts and i accelerate, nothing happens during the acceleration, and i think (cant really confirm this well) that if i get it higher than it doesnt "pulse" as much...?? No idea whats going on...

no engine lights whatsoever...



Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:48 AM
any updates?




Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:50 PM
I actually just fixed the problem; my spark plug gaps were WAY off. Regapping the plugs seems to have at least dealt with some of the uneven jerking and ugliness at lower RPM, and the revving seems much cleaner.

Thanks to everyone who posted, I hope this helps.

Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:49 AM
is it possible for the plugs gap to increase over time?

guess i'll try changing the plugs and make sure the new ones are gapped correctly





Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:27 AM
Godspeed wrote:is it possible for the plugs gap to increase over time?


not just a possibility, but an outright certainty.



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Re: 2200 OHV/LN2 stumble/hesitation 2000-2500 rpm?
Friday, September 18, 2009 5:45 PM
well then...

anyone have a quick link already saved for a good DIY for changing and gapping plugs!?




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