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2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:06 AM
I found a 2.2l 5 speed out of a 95 cavalier z22 and everything is there i was just wondering would it fit? The guy who owned it before the guy i am getting it from said it would. Is this true? (it would be going into a 1998 Sunfire gt)



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:10 AM
It will, but you also need to do a transmission swap.





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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:22 PM
you'd need to swap everything you see in the engine bay.


p.s. the z22 doesnt exist.



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:28 PM
why go from a 2.4 ld9 to the 2.2 ohv ? i say just look for a replacement 2.4



Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:25 PM
Wouldn't the 95 be ODB1? Or was it the 2.3 that was still ODB1 in '95? Never can remember which. But like others have said....you will hate life going from a 2.4 down to the old 2.2.


Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 2:59 AM
Well if a 2.4 comes along the same price as the 2.2 i am getting ill go for it but for now ill stick with my $50 2.2l



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 5:28 AM
If you like the power of the 2.4 you wil be sorry if you swap over the 2.2. Just seems like a lot of work to put in a turd of a motor. Even if it were free I wouldnt do it.


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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 11:26 AM
Jo Mx... wrote:If you like the power of the 2.4 you wil be sorry if you swap over the 2.2. Just seems like a lot of work to put in a turd of a motor. Even if it were free I wouldnt do it.
Power of a 2.4? its a 4banger ahaha i gotta 68 Torino with a v8 for power. I am not wasting big time money on something i might not even keep a year i am using to get back and forth from school not take to the drag strip or something.



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 3:02 PM
u can do this but then u cant drive your car... well at least u cant in canada its illegal to swap a motor older then the car in
Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 3:10 PM
in the u.s. too.... but they'd have to crawl under the car with a mirror to look at the vin plate on the motor, then decipher that number to make out what year it is. i've never seen an inspection station that anal.



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 3:29 PM
Well if they find out not that big of a deal to me i will just get another motor plan and simple.



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 3:56 PM
I'm not sure how going from and ODB II engine to and ODB I engine is going to affect the car itself. The 95 didn't have a BCM, so I'm thinking that your BCM will not see information it's looking for. You may run into some trouble there. If I were you, I'd take that deal and get everything you can, then part it out, and put the profit from it toward another 2.4 that will just drop right into your car without issues.

As said above, you have to swap everything under the hood from the donor car, including the tranny. If your GT is not a 5-speed, you're going to have to change your tranny mounts as well, which means cutting and welding.






Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 4:16 PM
I am going to clear this up my car had a 2.4l 5 speed the gearbox needed to be rebuilt then the guy i got it off before i payed him he sold the engine to his brother. The car i am getting the motor and gear box from has EVERYTHING!! there and it is a 2.2l 5 speed which is out of a 1995 cavalier coupe (z22 someone said they don't exist but thats what the stickers says on the side of her.) I don't care about the lack of power of it Its cheap with everything there. You guys say keep my money and put it to a 2.4 which is kinda hard to get money for a motor for your car with no job because i can't get a ride most days so this is a cheap quick way for me to get the car on the road so i can get back and forth from work and school. Anyways Thanks for all your help guys really apretcate (sp) it and anything that is really helpful to me please tell me like exactly what i need to put it in and if i need to change motor mounts and stuff like that.



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Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Monday, April 21, 2008 4:39 PM
Well, if you can get everything you need for $50, I'd say clean it out. Take everything that's under the hood, as well as the exhaust. The exhaust is different all the way back. Keep in mind that you may run into electronic issues. If you get all the wiring from under the dash, and swap that out, you'll be fine, but that's a hell of a project to go through, considering your reason for getting this engine is that you need something ASAP. You may want to look around and see if you can score a wiring harness and ECM from a 96-97 2.2L 5-speed car, as that would allow you to keep the swap simpler.





Re: 2.2l fit a 98 sunfire gt?
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:55 AM
1998 sunfiregt wrote:
Jo Mx... wrote:If you like the power of the 2.4 you wil be sorry if you swap over the 2.2. Just seems like a lot of work to put in a turd of a motor. Even if it were free I wouldnt do it.
Power of a 2.4? its a 4banger ahaha i gotta 68 Torino with a v8 for power. I am not wasting big time money on something i might not even keep a year i am using to get back and forth from school not take to the drag strip or something.


1) Old V8's are junk, and that's why they don't make them any more. It's been proven time and time again that you can go fast with less than 2L of engine.

But anyways. You CAN do the swap, however you will need to swap everything. Engine, Transmission (possibly axles too), computer, and wire harness. Not real sure if you'll run into a compatibility issue with the rest of the stuff in the car not working with a 95 ECM or not. Secondly it's also something you need to look at if you have emissions testing. It is in most places ILLEGAL to swap to an OLDER engine. Swapping to a newer engine is ok because of the increased emissions standards and blah blah blah. Also, if you remove the OBD-II from your car (which you would do by going to a 95 ECM) and they try to hook up the tool to your computer port for the emissions test, that will be an automatic FAIL.

All in all, YES you can swap the stuff over, but you're doing a lot of work and it would be easiest just to pop in another 2.4 and call it a day. But mostly you need to look into your local law situation regarding emissions and such.





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