I don't know it anyone has done this or posted this before, but I don't remember seeing it so I fiqured I would.
Firts of all, if you use your emergency (parking) break on a regular basis, you might not want to do this, and a side effect is that the brake light in the gauge cluster is on all the time.
I was messing around with my Sufire trying to fiqure out how to get the center console off and I noticed the e-brake sensor and started messing with it.
There is this little tab that grounds out on the E-brake mechanism when you pull up on the handle that turns the DRL's off and the brake light in the dash on.
You can get to it easy in Sunfires by just pulling the power window switch assembly, it might be harder on Caveliers.. I can't remember how the center consols are set up in those cars.
If you pull your E-brake handle all the way up, you can reach down and flip the brass tab streight up to it's touching the top of the mechanism... when you lower the handle back down, it will still be grounded and the DRL's won't come on. If you wan't to put it back where it was.. its easy, and it doesn't hurt the tab any since it's pretty flexable.
Besides the brake light in the dash being on all the time.. the only other side effect is that if you pull the handle over 1/4 the way up.. the DRL's will come on (basically reversing the switch), and if you pull it up far enough or do it enough times, the tab will move and the DRL's will start working all the time again.
So basically, if the light in the dash doesn't bother you, and you never use your E-brake... this is a really easy and effective way to diable the DRL's. I have a 5-speed and just always leave the car in gear anyway.
Another more permanant way to do it would be to just unplug the switch... hook a wire to it and ground it out completing the circuit... and then just removing your bulb for the brake light in the dash... wich I plan on doing.
That way you can use the E-brake all you wan't without worrying... and you don't have to go to all the work doing it the other ways..
When I get around to re-wiring it.. I'll take a pic to show where it needs to be grounded... but anyone that understands what I'm saying, should be able to fiqure it out on there own.
Once again.. if repost.... my bad
I like what I did, changed the clutch and they haven't worked since, lol.
I got sick of not being able to use my E-brake... so I just bent the tap 180 degrees so it's grounded on itself all the time and it works great. The "brake" light is always on in the dash now, but it's not any more annoying than the DRL light. Pulling the E-brake doesn't effect it at all anymore, and my car deosn't have have traction control so thats not a problem.
Doing it that way only takes a few seconds, and if you don't have or need your traction control, and the light in the dash doesn't bother you.. it's just as effective, you can still use the E-brake without effecting it... and you don't have to take the dash apart.
I could do it on antoher car.. start to finish in less than a minute...
all I did was..
Pull the plug for the sensor off... bend the ground tab underneath the sensor, and hook it too the spade conector the plug connects too, than slide the connector back onto the spade connector as far as it will go.
..or yo ucan just pull your ebrake up one click
this will turn the DRL off and will not engage your ebrake at all..... (yes the light comes on, but apparently that happens with bending the pin to) this is what ive been doin for a while.... you get used to the light. dont even notice anymore.
nice find tho!!
Not a new method by any means... anyone who drives a J knows the DRL's go off with the E-brake on. However... on 00-05 cars, they come back on as soon as you start driving. So it doesn't work.
I'd say, though... spending the time to take the console out to do it this way.... why not just take a few more minutes and take the dash off (on 95-99 cars) and do it right? It's really not that hard. And 00-05 cars, it's way faster to cut and ground one wire... than to remove the console... not that it would work, but I digress...
...j
ling427ttvette wrote:So basically you found a half assed way to do it?
Pretty much.
Sadly enough all you really had to do was pull the dashpad off, and clip a wire from the cluster.
But hey, who am I. I suggest everybody else disregard this post and do it the right way.
Well.. If I ever have my dash apart... I will do it "the right way".... but in the mean time.... this was a very quick and easy way to accomplish the task I was going for... thats all.
I didn't have to remove the console. to get to the switch.... I actually still havn't fiqured out how to get the thing off yet.
I normally don't post any "jerry rigging" tips... I just did for some reason this time.. idk why.
so now theres a "right way" to do this? wow.... i must have missed the ruling that decided which is right and wrong! surprised i didnt see that in the news at all. since im out of the loop, have they decided one the right way to mod our cars too yet? or are we free do it the way we like best?
if someone likes to cut the wire and permantely disable them (unless they want to go back in and reconnect the wire), then thats fine...it works. but if someone doesnt want a permanent result... maybe they use their DRL at dust and dawn rather than having their lights on or off from time to time.... WHO CARES!!!
so unless someone is doing something in a way that will cause themselves or others harm save our wrong way / right way, "im better than you cuz i do it this way and you dont"...blah blah crap to ourselves!
^^ people usually just assume that the harder way is the right way.
The only differance between the way I did it, and the "correct way", is that the e-brake light stays on in the dash.... thats it.
And since doing it the way I did it only takes litterally a few seconds I think I can live with the light in the dash for now. Christ.. there arn't even any tools involved... you could do it to your buddies car when he goes in to pay for gas.
gay...just do it the right way if thats the look your after.....or hook the ebrake senser to a switch,so you can turn off your drls when ever you want.....
Freak04 wrote:gay...just do it the right way if thats the look your after.....or hook the ebrake senser to a switch,so you can turn off your drls when ever you want.....
Umm.. it's wired that way from the factory... it's called pulling the E-brake up one click.
I did that for awhile... but my leg was rubing up against the handle with it like that so I stopped doing it..
If I ever have my dash apart to replace any bulbs are gauge faces... I'll cut the wire as described in the "right way" thread, and return the E-brake switch to it's stock location.... but until then.. this works (really well I might add). I just didn't think that it was worth removing the dash at the time when I could just do it this way for now..
Unless I'm fixing something..... I'm not going to pull the dash off my car until I have everything I wan't to install into the dash sitting next to me... so I can do it all at once and only have to remove the dash one time. It's really not a fun thing to do.... even if it is as easy as everyone says it is.
Godspeed wrote:so unless someone is doing something in a way that will cause themselves or others harm save our wrong way / right way, "im better than you cuz i do it this way and you dont"...blah blah crap to ourselves!
Bah, whatever. If Weebel had searched, he'd seen this same idea posted lots of times. I've been here since 2000, and it's a new idea to someone all the time.
Right way = no side effects. Wrong way = side effects. When I have to respond to one of these posts every month, it's easier to just call it "wrong way" instead of "a way with no side effects instead of your way with side effects". If you have a problem with what I call it, then don't read my posts.
Here's why it's not a good idea to use the Ebrake input: Starting in 96, the SDM (Sensing and Diagnostic Module) under the passenger seat, which controls the airbags, records everything that happens in your car... throttle position, speed, brakes, seat belt, ebrake, etc. If you're in an accident... and your insurance company decides not to cover you... they just download the contents of the "black box" and use it against you... because it sees you were using your ebrake at the time. Odd example, sure, but it's happened. Search, and you'll find that post too.
I'm done with this thread. Back to more important things.
...j
On my 97 2.2 5 Speed, my DRL's wouldn't turn off when I pulled my E-brake. Also, I disabled them by rmoving the dash and cutting the wire, and my DRL Dashlit doesn't come on or blink.
just unplug that little clip. your drl will never turn on again
smokeyoa$$ wrote:just unplug that little clip. your drl will never turn on again
I tried that and they just stayed on all the time.
Oh well..... it's not like it matters anyway.... I'm happy for now with it like that so I guess thats all that matters.
btw.... I've known about the disabling the drl's thread (right way that everyone speaks of) for a long freaking time.... I'm not new here ya know.
Calm down people....... it's not the end of the world here because I found a temporary easy way to do something to my own car and thought I would share with the other lazy people....... have a beer and relax.... you'll live longer.
...tell me why you want to disable your DRLs?
Wow bringing one back.
Since i missed it the first time around heres how i did mine and several others. I used a scanner (not naming it) to simply program them out. Couple of button presses and done, no disassembly, no cutting, no modification to "hard" parts.
I wonder if you can HPtuner them off?
To answer the question as to why anyone would wan't to diable them...
I hate the way the headlights look "half on"... yellow looks cheap...... let alone the fact that DRL's severely limit the life of your bulbs.. and the ones I have in their arn't cheap.
Ah, okay...gotcha. I can't help asking questions like that 'cause I'm a safety director and driving instructor (Smith Defensive Driving System, Bondurant graduate, DOD trained Executive Protection...etc) and I look at everything from a 'how can I be seen and not run over' prospective, since I have to share the road with people that got licenses because they could make a few right hand turns and pass a multiple choice test....
Thanks for the reply.
^^ to be honest Gary..... I thought the same thing before I did it... I was actually at odds with myself for awhile because of that. The majority of people on the road really are not apt enough to safeley be behind the wheel.... I see it every day since I drive for a living.
I'm went from fixing autos in the military.. to driving trucks as a civilian and have actually taken a class like your talking about before but I can't remember what it was called.... Being a professional driver really changes how you see others on the road...
But that said... I work nights so most of the time I'm in my car it's dark out... so I always run high end lights in my car so I can see better and I wan't them to last along as possible.. and I'm hoping that my defensive driving skills can make up a little for be being a little less visible.... the fact that I like them disabled for cosmetic reasons might be what made me finally decide to do it though...
To be honest.. my exaust has made more people see me than the DRLs
