does anyone know of anyone who has done a 3400 swap to a 3rd gen z24?? im planning on doing this and i would like to get some info to find out exactally what im getting myself into
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You'll want to get a flywheel, clutch, and tranny for a 2.2 before you start.
u can get any tranny from a older 2.8,3.1, 2.2(older or newer), 2.4(newer) it will all bolt up to the 3400 and also make sure if you get a other 2.8 or 3.1 get the jackshaft aka halfshaft and also make sure u get the correct shifter cables.
Reprogrammed ECU if you are going manual...
Either DHP or
http://milzymotorsports.com/ (might want to double check on the second one.... Haven't heard anything confirmed performance-wise on the V6 sites about his manual reflash.... just from the site owner)
SHOoff -- you answered my flywheel question I was going to ask
Kustom Js wrote:u can get any tranny from a older 2.8,3.1, 2.2(older or newer), 2.4(newer) it will all bolt up to the 3400 and also make sure if you get a other 2.8 or 3.1 get the jackshaft aka halfshaft and also make sure u get the correct shifter cables.
I'm glad we get a lot of @!#$ misinformation on this board.
THE 2.4 AND THE 2.2 + 60 DEGREE V6 + 90 DEGREE V6 HAVE DIFFERENT BELLHOUSINGS. THE 2.4 TRANSMISSION WILL NOT NBOLT TO NOTHING BUT A 2.4/2.3 ENGINE
Also, would you like to explain how to install the transmission you've mentioned? Cuz you cant just shove the 282 in there so I guess that'll rule out just about anything that came on the 2.8. Unless you're talking about the Isuzu MK7 that came from the 2.8. In which case, there's already a 3rd gen one, and a lot more of them easily found. The T550 is a bit easier to do, but still.... explain how the swap is done.
thanks.
Off-topic guys, what the hell is the battleship for the Z24.
sum guy the other day told me mine might be going out but he couldn't explain what it was
thanks
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Quiklilcav wrote:fpsunfire wrote:Off-topic guys, what the hell is the battleship for the Z24.
sum guy the other day told me mine might be going out but he couldn't explain what it was
thanks
It must be next to the blinker fluid resevoir.
I've never heard that term. Sounds like someone is just f*cking with you.
nah i think its a part of the carb!! lol!!
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yeah he pointed at the cover on my 2.4L twin cam and i tried to tell him thats not what thats called but he got all defensive
i hate it when people lie to me and i know they are lying
he was sayin' something about how that engine doesn't have wires? any idea about that
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Maybe that's what he thought it was called <shrugs>
If he thought the coil housing/IDI was called a d/mn battleship he must think the battery is a f***ing bread box.
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zzzzzer wrote:If he thought the coil housing/IDI was called a d/mn battleship he must think the battery is a f***ing bread box.
i know right. this guy is an idiot when it comes to cars
he sure confused me though
thanks for lettin' me know what he meant
5 seconds to find another street...
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Kindof off topic as well, but why do people choose to put the 3400/3100 into the 3rd gen cars, other than loving their looks better than a 2nd or 1st gen? I remember searching around for curb weight and the 3rd gen base model is heavier than the previous years base model by a good 100-200 pounds, and why else put in the better engine for anything but performance...just a little curious. Not that I wouldn't love to do this either way.
Well... for me personally. I had a third gen car. So it would be senseless for me to pick up a 2nd gen just for that. I blew the engine and thought, what better of an idea since I found a good deal on the 3400. Also it's different. Dont be fooled by what it looks like on the board. There's all the people that talk about how they're gonna do the swap in a couple months and stuff. But it's the j-body world, and what it comes down to, is that there are very few people that do. I think there's only something like 4 or 5 people that have done this swap. I'm not even sure if all of them are actually running. 1 of them that I know of is automatic. And we all have our own issues with it. There's no easiest solution to the swap as I'm pretty sure we're all running a bit different setup.
And if you go to V6z24.com you'll find that there's actually quite a few 2nd gen cars that have the swap done. On 60degreev6.com you'll find that it gets done in anythign else that has the old 3.1/2.8. Like the Beretta, Grand Prix, Lumina... and all of the sort. Advantage, the 3.1 OBD-I ECU can run the new 3400 v6. A slight tune will correct any problems and yield a nice power gain.
The 3400 also has some mods you can do to it. There is some aftermarket support, but also there are some things you can do. You can do a top end swap from the new 3500 (non-vvt) and get a nice gain out of it. And that's using all stock parts. Cams and such.
Plus, my personal preference.... the engine is more reliable on boost than the 2.2 is. Like the video above shows. I believe that's a completely stock 3400. Either that, or I believe it may have the 3500 intakes on it, but not the heads.
Another thing that i've noticed. A lot of people know that Cavaliers only came with 4cyl's on the newer body style. And especially recognize the ones with grey plastic bumpers (like mine) as the ones with the lowest output 4cyl. And they know they're slow. But at the same time, people arent intellegent enough to recognize the fact that a v6 makes a different sound than an inline 4. They will fail in their attempt to race. Even one guy with a 5.0 mustang got owned on (and I still to this day, fail to see how.... but he was sure trying like hell)
My thing is reading about what issues have come up so far and what the solution is so when I get the rest of the engine parts together it shouldn't be too bad. I know that it isn't going to be a seamless swap.
Also, as mentioned, since the 3rd gens did not come with a 6 cyl, I look at it as an "F-U GM" thing. Its been determined that the engine will fit using minimal fabrication. So, why not swap it in.
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One more thing, my 2.2 has about a year of life left in it (if I'm nice to the motor). The body is still in great shape, so this is cheaper than getting a new car w/ the same engine and a lower power to weight ratio.
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I will note:
It is ill advised to run the 3400 V6 with cheap tires. The torque, I will tell you, hates cheap tires. I can spin in 2nd all the way up to rev limit, shift to third and still spin. On a stock engine, that's not really a good sign that the tires are great.
i hated 50-75' 2nd gear scratches, well maybe not hated
