i have had my little cav 2 weeks or so, some idiot backed into my driver rear quarter panel, i may be able to work it back out, but i only put liability on it since i only paid 1500 for it.
has anyone ever cut the old one off and replaced it ?
i will post a photo later on.
body filler is your freind. prep the area will, then go nuts. (if you can not pull it out)
My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
then go nuts? lol never go nuts with bondo,
if its too bad u can grind the stock welds off and just use the quarter skin, yes ive done it
Short Hand wrote:body filler is your freind. prep the area will, then go nuts. (if you can not pull it out)
That's stupid advice.
Where about in Wyoming are you??
A buddy and I are in Laramie going to school for autobody but I know enough that if we could just pound it out and fill it that we could do it.
Basically to swap it out you have to drill all the spot-welds out and then spot-weld it or "glue" it back in. I can get it off but I don't have the tools or knowledge to put it back on and have it align right.
-Seth
invest in "uninsured motorist" on your liability policy ... i got rear ended in a hit and run and they covered it with a police report
im in gillette wyoming,
it looks like i can work the dent back out, to the point of only needing a very very minor ammount of filler, i just hate it when people do that kind of thing to me
Changing a welded on quarter is the last resort. When you change it and arent too sure how to do it you can cause more harm. poor welds and water leaks will cause excessive rusting to uncoated steel. It is nearly impossible to replicate the rust inhibiting coatings that gm uses.
So, bondo verses replacing, Try to repair it first. Spend a little time and work with the steel before you fill it though.
If the rear impact has caused a sharp crease it may be necessary to pull on the impact area to relieve the stress on the crease. If you dont relieve the stress on the panel you will be fighting the repairs and they will never be right..
A little body shop info,
If you have plans on having a body shop finish the work, like painting and such, you might want to see if the shop will paint a panel that you did repairs to. I wont do it at my shop. Not because im an ass, because the total result of the repair reflects my buisness, and as buisness goes, I dont want crapy work riding around with my name associated to the repairs. Im not saying that you couldnt do a good job, just letting you know how a shop sees it. It may cost more for a shop to redo your work, than it would for them to do the whole job from start.
01 cav w/01 3400 gam gt 4t45e
yeah its not all that bad, for now im gonna leave it alone, im thinking if i ever get the motivation maybe i will just take it to a good shop to fix her up and give her a new paint job over the whole car
Sounds like some kid at my shop. The teacher gave him a door and took a sledge hammer to it, then he used a hammer for a little bit and took body filler to it and filled about an inch and a half deep by about 3 inches long with body filler... Then he gets pissed when the teacher gave him an F lol...
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wizkiddrummer wrote:Short Hand wrote:body filler is your freind. prep the area will, then go nuts. (if you can not pull it out)
That's stupid advice.
Where about in Wyoming are you??
A buddy and I are in Laramie going to school for autobody but I know enough that if we could just pound it out and fill it that we could do it.
Basically to swap it out you have to drill all the spot-welds out and then spot-weld it or "glue" it back in. I can get it off but I don't have the tools or knowledge to put it back on and have it align right.
-Seth
Stupid advice ? ITS a 1500 $ J.
Your telling him to do things beyond his capabilities, and economically unfeasible. Please take a second look.
My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
Quiklilcav wrote:Short Hand wrote:body filler is your freind. prep the area will, then go nuts. (if you can not pull it out)
Dude, did you work at Maaco or something? 
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Filler should be used after most of the dent has been pulled/hammered out as flat as possible. It should only be used to fill the minor imperfections, not large areas.
No, I never worked at Maaco. AND if you read out my post, it suggested he pull out whatever he can, I should have probably been more descriptive to please the elite here. "rollseyes".
If you need an example of MY body work, I posted it up in a thread in the photo section not to long ago. (I basically prepped my own car then sent it off for paint, job came out fantastic, and I get nothing but great comments about the car)
My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
Short Hand wrote:wizkiddrummer wrote:Short Hand wrote:body filler is your freind. prep the area will, then go nuts. (if you can not pull it out)
That's stupid advice.
Where about in Wyoming are you??
A buddy and I are in Laramie going to school for autobody but I know enough that if we could just pound it out and fill it that we could do it.
Basically to swap it out you have to drill all the spot-welds out and then spot-weld it or "glue" it back in. I can get it off but I don't have the tools or knowledge to put it back on and have it align right.
-Seth
Stupid advice ? ITS a 1500 $ J.
Your telling him to do things beyond his capabilities, and economically unfeasible. Please take a second look.
Yes, it is stupid advice.
You told him to "go nuts" with filler.
That's stupid.
Hammering out a dent isn't "beyond his capabilities, and economically unfeasible".
I could give a hammer to a 8 year old and tell him to smack the crap out of the quarter and it'd still work out better than going nuts with filler.
$24.99
Not too expensive I'd say either.
Going nuts with filler is stupid. Pounding as much out as you can and then using filler to fix what can't be hammered out, is smart.
Of course replacing the quarter isn't something he knows how to do but he asked how to and I told him.
BTW, even if his car was at 200,000 miles, low retail for his car is $1,675
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-Seth
I never insulted you telling him to hammer it out. I was attacking the idea or replacing the rear quarter. and WHEN I said PREP, That means to ready the area up (pound as much as you can out), and fill in the rest. Maybe I should have said "pound as much of it as you can out, sand the area down, then lay in the body filler to have kept confusion to a minimal. You guys jumped on me like pretentious banshee's, and I am just commenting back
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My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
Short Hand wrote:Maybe I should have said "pound as much of it as you can out, sand the area down, then lay in the body filler to have kept confusion to a minimal.
That woulda worked.
You have to keep in mind, there are some people on here that would see that one from way ^^^ up there and think, "hey, i'll sand and then fill with 6 inches of filler."
-Seth
i most likely am way more capable in the body work line than most.
my first post on this was more just to vent than anything.
Bhirst, i just saw your post about that guy and the door and the hammer and the teacher giving him and f and the guy getting all pissed i don't mean to laugh but that's hilarious. He took a hammer to the door and filled in about an inch and a half by about 3 inches deep with body filler, i'd hate to see what he;d be like working in a real body shop. I've been rear ended twice, the first time they tried to run the second one which happened just this past friday they cracked the back bumper rendered the trunk completely inoperative and cracked that red chevy molding or whatever you call it that goes across the back of the trunk and the bumper fiberglass no wonder it cracks so easily.
Shorthand, i saw your post you mention people jumping on you like pretentious banshee's seems like a lot of people do that around here jump on people like pretentious banshees that is.
^^^ i had a guy rear end me one time while i was pulling into a parking lot and then tried to speed off... i was the hell with that and i chased his ass down and called my GF and gave her his plate number, color of the car ad make and model.....but by time i got that all down he pulled over, and after all that the only damage was a scuff mark that i later just buffed out most of it but u could see a small scrape mark, but hell he gave me $120 out of his pocket right then and there to not call the cops
we should all only be so lucky.
yeah, i just got a call today from the other guys insurance he admitted full responsibility and his insurance is going to pay for the whole thing, now just wish i knew whether or not they were going to be using brand spanking new replacement parts or just dirt cheap recycled used parts to do the work. I'm taking it to a chevy dealer body shop so hopefully they will use brand new factory parts, unless the parts would be impossible to find new because of the fact they stopped making the cavy in 05.
Some advice to pull dents on metal items...
Sand down the area of the body that you are pulling the dent out of. It needs to be down to metal. Buy a slide hammer. Take the screws that it comes with and cut the tip off so it is flat and weld a 16-penny nail to it. Then very lightly tac-weld the nail to the body and use the slide hammer that way. The reason I suggest this is because instead of drilling holes and creating more damage, you are saving yourself a bunch of work. Make sure to twist the nail off the body though. Don't just pull it off becasue you will rip a hole in the body. Just my .02....
body filler to fill in dent
but hey thats what small claims court is for
