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New to the J-body community
Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:04 PM
Just wanted to introduce my self. My name is tony I have two cars my first is a 2004 f-150 lightning. And my secound is a car my grandpa gave me after having a stoke and cant drive any more. Its a 99 sunfire with 9300 original miles on it. It seems like a great little running car. I replace all tires brakes air filter plugs and wirers. Any thing else anyone think i should change this car has just been sitting besides the little drive to get grocrys and stuff. Is there any kind of small things to wake these up it is the 2.2l.

My brother has a 2006 cobalt ss I took his stock muffler and put it on the car looks pretty nice. He is talking about turboing his car and he says if he does i can have his supercharger off his car is there a way that anyone found to fab these in. Well thats about it right now looking forward to getting to know all of you
Tony

Re: New to the J-body community
Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:39 AM
First of all welcome to the site.

As far as the supercharger thing...your intake is on the opposite side of the engine than the one in the cobalt let alone all the other problems you would run into. There may be some way to "fab" it on, but it would take a VERY large amount of work if it's even possible. The 2 engines are just completely different in pretty much every way you can think of once you look past the fact there both fuel injected 4-cylinders.

Personally I wouldn't even think of trying since you could just go out and buy a turbo kit for less money.



Re: New to the J-body community
Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:44 PM
Welcome, I would change fuel filter,oil and oil filter and you should be on the safe side.
Re: New to the J-body community
Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:16 PM
9300 Miles, wow.
Motor mounts might be a nice, inexpensive mod to do.



Re: New to the J-body community
Friday, July 13, 2007 5:52 AM
Welcome to the org.

Nice score on a low mileage 'fire. As for the charger, the best way I can think of to do that would be to fab a base for it that exits to a pipe, and then you can hook it to the throttle body like a turbo setup, but it would take a good amount of fabbing, and it will be hard to get it to fit in there once it's all together.

Weebel, I think you missed the part where he might be getting the charger free.






Re: New to the J-body community
Friday, July 13, 2007 7:24 AM
No I didn't miss that part. I'm just betting it will end up costing him more in the long run to fabricate a way to install the GMSC, and have it work well (if even posible), than it would to just buy a turbo kit made for the car.

If I where him, I would take the free supercharger, sell it, then turbo the car . I don't know how his buddy would feel about that though.





Re: New to the J-body community
Friday, July 13, 2007 10:27 AM
Thanks for all your comments and your words. Its my brother who is giving me the charger. Hes really big in the cobalt community and now hes talking about selling his bike and even modding his cobalt more. He talking about putting in a built engine in his car he said if he does that he will give me his old engine cheap as heck. So that meens i will have a 2.0 s/c ecotec in a 99 sunfire has anyone done this. Im sure they have but im just curious.
Re: New to the J-body community
Friday, July 13, 2007 10:42 AM
Lots of work getting the 3 plug Cobalt PCM to interface with our 2 plug cars, plus having to change the cams to drive a PS pump, or figure a way to get the electric steering from a Cobalt to work. Extreme amounts of work and expense, not saying impossible, just highly difficult.



Re: New to the J-body community
Friday, July 13, 2007 10:44 AM
I know you can put an Eco in a car that came with a 2.4 by basically changing some wiring, ecu, and modifying a couple of mounts. So you should be able to do it with your 2.2, it will just be more work, and involve a bit more fabrication. I'm pretty sure theres people here that have done it.



Re: New to the J-body community
Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:46 AM
Weebel wrote:I know you can put an Eco in a car that came with a 2.4 by basically changing some wiring, ecu, and modifying a couple of mounts. So you should be able to do it with your 2.2, it will just be more work, and involve a bit more fabrication. I'm pretty sure theres people here that have done it.


Other way around, Eco into 2200 equipped stock no need to mod mounts at all aside from possibly flipping the tranny mounts upside down and acquiring Eco radiator and Eco belt driven gear. Daflyinskwirl did a writeup on his Eco swap in the 3rd Gen forum. And it seems easiest to do the Eco swap if the recipient is a 2000+ 2200 equipped car. Older cars require a donation of every strand of wire to swap into the recipient.
It would likely be much easier and more cost-efficient to just swap in a 2.4 into your '99. Similar power to the 2.2 Eco, and there is a supercharger kit for it from GM thats not SUPER expensive, it sells on GMPD for $1404.31 and is worth 50 horsepower. Some mods may be needed though on a '99 or older 2.4. Bolt that on, and you are right on par power-wise with the Cobalt 2.0 SS/SC.



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