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2.4 engines
Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:54 AM
is there a difference between a 97 cavalier 2.4 engine and a 01 2.4 engine?

Re: 2.4 engines
Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:04 PM
yes, it has to deal with engine internals or how they are tuned from the factory or somthing along those lines, or so I have heard, I am also wondering the difference of the 2 since I want to add a GM charger to my 99 cav that currently needs a new engine.








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Re: 2.4 engines
Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:12 PM
theres a couple small things not 100% sure at all.. they have diff. tranny no EGR smaller starter thats only thing things i can think of off top of my head




Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:16 AM
They have different Knock Sensors


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Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:08 PM
so which one is the better one as far as reliabilty and power?
Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:01 PM
probably pretty equal with no EGR its gonna gain a HP or 2..lol but all in all pretty equal as far as engines themselves




Re: 2.4 engines
Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:46 AM
Isn't there also a compression ratio difference as well? I'm not sure what it is though.



Re: 2.4 engines
Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:38 AM
2.4L L4 (LD9) Features & Benefits

OVERVIEW
The LD9 Twin Cam delivers power and more sophisticated technology to
entry-level buyers seeking a sporty performance kick. Small improvements for
model year 2001 add up to an overall increase in quality, reliability and
durability.

NEW OR CHANGED FOR 2001 MODEL YEAR

More Efficient Catalytic Converters

New Starter Motor

Sleeveless Coolant Sensor

New Cruise Control Module


CUSTOMER BENEFITS

BETTER CATS
The catalytic converter has the same volume as that used for model year
1999-2000. Yet improved technology allows the converter to work as
efficiently with less precious metals in the substrate, or the core of the
converter brick where the catalytic reaction begins. The new converter
reduces cost considerably and still allows the LD9 to meets National Low
Emission Vehicle (NLEV) standards.

STARTER
The new starter motor, supplied by Delco Remy America, draws less amperage
than the starter used for model year 2000, yet delivers the same cold
cranking power. That means the same starting power with less drain on the
battery. The starter is also lighter and costs less to manufacture.

SLEEVELESS COOLANT SENSOR
The coolant temperature sensor uses a plastic insulator to protect
electrical leads inside the brass housing, rather than a rubber sleeve. The
new sensor reduces the possibility of assembly rejection or shorting in
operation.

IMPROVED CRUISE CONTROL
The cruise control module has been upgraded with the latest electronic
board. The driver will notice no difference in operation, but quality,
reliability and durability are improved, and piece cost is reduced.

CONTINUING FEATURES
The LD9 received a number of improvements for model year 1999 which were
carried through to the current model year. Revisions to the composite
plastic intake manifold in 1999 improved airflow and evaporative air-fuel
mixing to improve efficiency and reduce emissions. The throttle body was
fitted with gold-plated terminals for its electrical connections to further
improve reliability and durability. Exhaust runners (which included a larger
downpipe off the manifold) were opened to a more healthy 1.75 inches over
the previous 1.5 inch as seen in the 1st gen 2.4L ( 1996-1998 )

The LD9 flywheel was revised and lightened to accommodate new Getrag
five-speed manual transaxle. For model year 1999, the latest Multec II fuel
injectors were introduced, ensuring the most precise fuel delivery possible
with a smaller, more clog-resistant injector design. The 2.4 Twin Cam began
production as the Quad Four-- Powertrain's first all-American dual-overhead
cam line four. It underwent extensive revision in 1996, when displacement
increased from 2.3 to 2.4 liters. The cam was re-profiled, and the intake
and exhaust systems were reworked to decrease engine noise. A stroke
increase, new balance shafts and hydraulic engine mounts radically improved
overall noise, vibration and harshness control over the louder 2.3L, yet the
Twin Cam kept the edgy, high-rev power delivery sporting that customers
appreciate.


LD/9 ( 1999-2k )
Displacement:
2392 cc
Compression Ratio:
9.71:1
Bore and stroke:
3.54 X 3.70

LD/9 ( 1996-1998 )
Displacement:
2392cc
Compression Ratio:
9.48:1
Bore and stroke:
3.44 X 3.98





Re: 2.4 engines
Monday, March 13, 2006 4:11 PM
wow, Lenko Rules!!!
So does that mean that I can bolt on a GM Charger onto my 99 Z without any problems at all?








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Re: 2.4 engines
Monday, March 13, 2006 5:06 PM
Bolt on, yes. No problems. The 99-02 engines are the same.

BUT

The reflash won't work on a 99 computer. 99 uses a convenience centre, the cluster stores the mileage, etc.. many changes in 2000.. 2000 uses Class 2 wiring, the body control module, different ECU, etc. THe only thing on the engine that changes are the first O2 sensor (1 wire in 99, two wires in 00-02), and the intake manifold had a lip added to reduce airflow a bit. Minor tweak.

If you want to put a supercharger on, and reflash it... then you need to gut the entire car, including airbags... and swap over the entire contents of a 2000 car. I did this on my 99 convertible... it's now a 2000 convertible in a 99 shell, including the airbags, radio, cluster, dash, etc. NOT EASY!







Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:24 AM
Actually there is a guy on the org with a 99 who had his ECU reflashed ot a 2000 and then had the Gm charger program put on it. Without doing all the wring swap.



FU Tuning




Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:56 AM
I was under the impression that it hadn't worked?

The 2000 uses a signal wire to talk to the other modules... those modules don't even exist in 99, so how would it work?

I suppose it's possible... but like I said, I thought it had been attempted and didn't work.





Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:28 PM
Lenko, John Lenko wrote:I was under the impression that it hadn't worked?

The 2000 uses a signal wire to talk to the other modules... those modules don't even exist in 99, so how would it work?

I suppose it's possible... but like I said, I thought it had been attempted and didn't work.


I got my info from this post: [URL=post]http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=40&i=102832&t=102832[/URL]

This is the guys profile: [URL=99 Z24]http://www.j-body.org/members/ruen/cars/1/[/URL]

Of course he could just be saying that.



FU Tuning



Re: 2.4 engines
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:43 PM
Interesting... I'm curious how he got it to work with just the reflash....

STAY TUNED!





Re: 2.4 engines
Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:20 PM
My uncle works at gm performance and he told me that you had to replace all the wiring.
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