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2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:58 PM
Can someone explain to me the differences between the engine on the 95 Z24/GT and the 96 and newer, without getting too technical? I know the 2.4 has 5 more lb/ft of torque (is the performance increase noticeable?).

Let's say I had a choice between two cars to buy, a 95 Z24 and a 96 Z24, which were identical except the 95 had lower mileage, and they costed the same. Should I get the 95 for the lower mileage or the 96 for the newer engine?

Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:35 PM
you should get the 96 z24 cus i heard theres too much promblems with the 2.3l engine and the 2.4 is more reliable
Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:28 PM
Go for the 96 2.4

The main differences I can think of between the two are the oil pump and balance shafts. 2.4 will be easier to find as well.




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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:30 PM
i would get the 95..obd1 pcm = chips



Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:09 PM
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The main differences I can think of between the two are the oil pump and balance shafts. 2.4 will be easier to find as well.

well as far as finding it i dont think it will matter cus i think hes looking at the CARS...but i have to agree mesra....
the 95 cav has more performance options,like pcm softwear and engine parts....but if you disagree just look at it like this...all the 2.4 twin cam guys take parts off the 95 2.3 to make their 2.4 faster...so whats that tell you about the 2.3?


Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:09 PM
besides, with the 95, you got the HO swap, and it's a bolt in basically, just a few "minor" mods (P/S pump line conversion is the only thing really I think, nothing else).

you can also do things with the 95 (after a HO swap) like, bore and stroke (2.6L) then run FI (BIG turbo or S/C, like the Greddy 18G or the Eaton M90). downside, the isuzu trans, upside Quaife makes a LSD for it (the Lotus Elan M100 model) and you may be able to find true isuzu internals for a nice tranny.

go to www.quad4forums.com and get the info, both TC and Quad4 enthusiasts go there.





Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:12 PM
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downside, the isuzu trans,

reverse that..just get the getrag tranny off the HO engine..itll bolt up as well..has a better drive ratios,stronger gears,and SOME came with an LSD.
did we mention that with the 95 you can LEGALLY remove your speed and rev limiters


Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:46 PM
Go with the 95. The 2.3 kicks ass. The torque might be lower, but the car pulls harder through a wider band. I've driven both cars in stock form, and the 95 is quicker. I miss my 95 Z.





Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:58 PM
I didn't want to get TOO in detail LOL



Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Monday, March 06, 2006 2:25 PM
i have a 2.3 quad 4 and its got some pull to it but its supposibly hard to maintane ( cant spell ) but other than that they have alot of easy mods to do like changing in H.O. parts from the junk yard, performance chips, cat-back(expensive!) header (only one site i know of that sells headers for the 2.3 ) then you can easily make a intake with a high flow intake bought from autozone a rubber 90 degree rubber thing and a pipe to fit.......mines got 10000000plus on it and runs great


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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Monday, March 06, 2006 5:04 PM
The 2.3 of course, no problems here.




Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Monday, March 06, 2006 5:23 PM
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Q: How much Horsepower & Torque does my 3rd gen car have?
1995-97 2.2 OHV - 120 Horsepower / 130 lbs of Torque
1998-2002 2200 OHV - 115 Horsepower / 135 lbs of Torque
1995 2.3 L.O. Quad 4 - 160 Horsepower / 155 lbs of Torque
1996-2002 2.4 TC - 150 Horsepower / 155 lbs of Torque
2002-2005 2.2 ECOTEC - 140 Horsepower / 150 lbs of Torque


Hope im of help


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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:44 PM
Corey Duquette wrote:
Quote:

Q: How much Horsepower & Torque does my 3rd gen car have?
1995-97 2.2 OHV - 120 Horsepower / 130 lbs of Torque
1998-2002 2200 OHV - 115 Horsepower / 135 lbs of Torque
1995 2.3 L.O. Quad 4 - 160 Horsepower / 155 lbs of Torque
1996-2002 2.4 TC - 150 Horsepower / 155 lbs of Torque
2002-2005 2.2 ECOTEC - 140 Horsepower / 150 lbs of Torque


Hope im of help


yaaaaaaay i have a 160 hp stock and 155 trq didnt noe that lol


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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:10 PM
Go with the 2.3. Many more options, and I'm really liking my HO 7200 chip (Eprom?)

Haven't gotten to rebuild and swap in the HO yet, but I have a redline of 7200 rpms, no governor, and (if I remember correctly) advanced spark, and modified air/fuel ratio. (thanks again Scott!!!)

2.3's absofreakinglutely own as far as I'm concerned




Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Friday, March 10, 2006 9:53 AM
Corey Duquette wrote:
Quote:

Q: How much Horsepower & Torque does my 3rd gen car have?
1995-97 2.2 OHV - 120 Horsepower / 130 lbs of Torque
1998-2002 2200 OHV - 115 Horsepower / 135 lbs of Torque
1995 2.3 L.O. Quad 4 - 160 Horsepower / 155 lbs of Torque
1996-2002 2.4 TC - 150 Horsepower / 155 lbs of Torque
2002-2005 2.2 ECOTEC - 140 Horsepower / 150 lbs of Torque


Hope im of help


No!!! Incorrect!
It is:

1995-97 2.2 OHV - 120@5200 Horsepower / 130@4000 lbs of Torque
1998-2002 2200 OHV - 115@5000 Horsepower / 135@3600 lbs of Torque
1995 2.3 L.O. Quad 4 - 150@5600 Horsepower / 145@4800 lbs of Torque
1996-2002 2.4 TC - 150@5600 Horsepower / 155@2400-4400 lbs of Torque
2002-2005 2.2 ECOTEC - 140@5600Horsepower / 150@4000 lbs of Torque

Corrected version found here.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=47&i=30104&t=30104&start=25

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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Friday, March 10, 2006 1:18 PM
2.4, mre parts readily availible, + it is am uch more dependable platform.



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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Friday, March 10, 2006 5:03 PM
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Noob know-it-alls should not do stickys!

funny..cus i think he was closer to correct
i like how people try to sell the LO quad short..it had bigger cams,bigger TB,bigger manifolds, etc...what makes you think it didnt make more hp than a TC?



Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Friday, March 10, 2006 5:10 PM
Because I quoted from GM and not made up #s out of my azz.^^^



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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Friday, March 10, 2006 5:17 PM
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i like how people try to sell the LO quad short..it had bigger cams,bigger TB,bigger manifolds, etc...what makes you think it didnt make more hp than a TC?

Lastly, I am not selling LO quad short. Thats how GM rated them, any concerns regarding why it it had less power then the TC should be asked to GM HQs.



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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:40 AM
Short Hand wrote:2.4, mre parts readily availible, + it is am uch more dependable platform.


wow, that statement was wrong on so many levels. the 2.4L is NOT more dependable than the 2.3L, and to say so is just ignorant.

A motors dependability is based on the owners care for the maintenance of said motor. the 2.3L was given a bad rap for people abusing their motors. The 2.3L was meant for the open road, to be moving all the time, not sitting in a traffic jam.





Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:17 PM
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The 2.3L was meant for the open road, to be moving all the time, not sitting in a traffic jam.

thats why god created the fan switch




Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:11 PM
hotbug1776 wrote:
Short Hand wrote:2.4, mre parts readily availible, + it is am uch more dependable platform.


wow, that statement was wrong on so many levels. the 2.4L is NOT more dependable than the 2.3L, and to say so is just ignorant.

A motors dependability is based on the owners care for the maintenance of said motor. the 2.3L was given a bad rap for people abusing their motors. The 2.3L was meant for the open road, to be moving all the time, not sitting in a traffic jam.


It was wrong on NO LEVEL. We drive Econo Boxes which were meant for city slicking. So city driving is something it should have been prepped for. The TC on the other hand is in the hands of MANY abusive drivers in the city and on the highways and still outlasts.



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Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:01 PM
your opinion, just like mine, of course we're both biased,



and I'm faster.



Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:31 PM
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It was wrong on NO LEVEL. We drive Econo Boxes which were meant for city slicking.

the 2.3 quad was DESIGNED for racing..not for city driving..although mine handles city driving pretty well..

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your opinion, just like mine, of course we're both biased,..and im faster




Re: 2.3 vs 2.4 engine?
Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:40 PM
mesra wrote:
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It was wrong on NO LEVEL. We drive Econo Boxes which were meant for city slicking.

the 2.3 quad was DESIGNED for racing..not for city driving..although mine handles city driving pretty well..

Quote:

your opinion, just like mine, of course we're both biased,..and im faster


thank you good sir, you just made my point.





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