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how many coils
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:14 PM
how many coils should i cut off my springs to get a sunfire to tuck the tires?

Re: how many coils
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:48 PM
None, buy springs. You will hate it if you cut the springs. Also you will blow out the struts VERY fast.


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Re: how many coils
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:28 PM
who taught you that cutting springs is OK?

find that person, kick them really hard and start thinking for yourself.




Re: how many coils
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:03 PM
cutting spring was ok on older cars with non progressive spring rate (like the older impala from the 60's) I had cutted springs on my car for a year or so and they sucked bad,rode hard and made the rear top plate suffer really really bad within 3 hours of having the coils on the car the top plates creaked!



Re: how many coils
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:42 PM
Quote:

kick them really hard square in teh nuts...


Save up, get springs and struts and do it correctly from the get-go. You will have less problems.













Re: how many coils
Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:13 AM
your name says it all



Re: how many coils
Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:46 AM
MeltdOwn350 aka cOdy wrote:who taught you that cutting springs is OK?

find that person, kick them really hard and start thinking for yourself.




Re: how many coils
Thursday, November 03, 2005 11:46 PM
maybe heating them would be cool then
Re: how many coils
Friday, November 04, 2005 4:20 AM
or maybe killing yourself would be. i know lets post more useless threads to see what people will say.



Re: how many coils
Friday, November 04, 2005 5:49 AM
BaggedCav98 wrote:or maybe killing yourself would be. i know lets post more useless threads to see what people will say.

That may be a little sarcastic. But heating or cutting springs is a really bad idea. It will change how they function immensely, and probably more dangerously.

On cutting springs: If you use a saw (or similar device) you will destroy the structure of the metal where you cut it, making it weak and prone to breakage. On top of the fact that it's really hard to cut.
If you cut it using a torch (plasma cutters fall in here too), you will not damage the structure, but the spring rate will be very wrong for the height, causing you to bottom out and ruin struts constantly. Which will lead to a lack of control of the car, as any crappy suspension does.

On heating springs: The spring metal used in stock (and most after-market) springs is self-annealing. If you heat it, it will get harder. If you don't control this process carefully you will end up with springs that have uneven spring rates within them, and each spring may have a different overall rate. Again not good for control.
Also, heating with torches (or the like) tends to produce hot spots. If you get one spot hot enough, you may create a weak point because the metal is so hard it starts to suffer from metal fatigue. I don't need to explain the possible problem due to a spring snapping in half do I?

If you still want to cut them even after all that warning, go ahead. Just please don't drive it in Michigan. I don't want you to kill me too.



Re: how many coils
Friday, November 04, 2005 6:12 AM
C.T.S wrote:
BaggedCav98 wrote:or maybe killing yourself would be. i know lets post more useless threads to see what people will say.

That may be a little sarcastic. But heating or cutting springs is a really bad idea. It will change how they function immensely, and probably more dangerously.

On cutting springs: If you use a saw (or similar device) you will destroy the structure of the metal where you cut it, making it weak and prone to breakage. On top of the fact that it's really hard to cut.
If you cut it using a torch (plasma cutters fall in here too), you will not damage the structure, but the spring rate will be very wrong for the height, causing you to bottom out and ruin struts constantly. Which will lead to a lack of control of the car, as any crappy suspension does.

On heating springs: The spring metal used in stock (and most after-market) springs is self-annealing. If you heat it, it will get harder. If you don't control this process carefully you will end up with springs that have uneven spring rates within them, and each spring may have a different overall rate. Again not good for control.
Also, heating with torches (or the like) tends to produce hot spots. If you get one spot hot enough, you may create a weak point because the metal is so hard it starts to suffer from metal fatigue. I don't need to explain the possible problem due to a spring snapping in half do I?

If you still want to cut them even after all that warning, go ahead. Just please don't drive it in Michigan. I don't want you to kill me too.


true it was sarcastic but its the true, the second part not the first. check out the other post he made in versus and in the war forum. he basically just posted stupid things to see what people would say back thats all




Re: how many coils
Friday, November 04, 2005 8:07 AM
Just remove the springs, it's much easier, and you can tuck all the tire you want. I ride around like that, handles like a Ferrari, and the chicks love it.





Re: how many coils
Friday, November 04, 2005 5:07 PM
Joe Schulte (JoeDM) wrote:Just remove the springs, it's much easier, and you can tuck all the tire you want. I ride around like that, handles like a Ferrari, and the chicks love it.



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Re: how many coils
Sunday, November 06, 2005 10:20 AM
Joe Schulte (JoeDM) wrote:Just remove the springs, it's much easier, and you can tuck all the tire you want. I ride around like that, handles like a Ferrari, and the chicks love it.


Thats how I roll....





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