This feeler is for an adapter plate to delete the stock power master cylinder, and replace it with a Wilwood 7/8" tandem master cylinder.
The master cylinder in question is the "Wilwood Aluminum Tandem Master Cylinder w/ Pushrod."
There are three versions available.
Aluminum Tandem Master Cylinder w/ Pushrod with Plain Finish - Product Number: 260-9439 - Price: $215.94
Aluminum Tandem Master Cylinder w/ Pushrod with Black Powder Coat - Product Number: 260-9439-BK - Price: $259.14
Aluminum Tandem Master Cylinder w/ Pushrod with Ball Brushed Finish - Product Number: 260-9439-P - Price: $259.14
Specification and Instruction Sheet Link
There are also a lot of other, cheaper, Small Block Chevy Master Cylinders that will bolt up to this plate. Below is the Wilwood Dimensions.
My adapter plate will be manufactured from T6-6061 Aluminum. The over all size is 4.5"L x 4.5"W x 0.75"T
Here is the unit modeled up in SolidWork with hardware shown for reference.
A 3D printed model was created to confirm spacing and fitment. This was before the adapter was thickened to contain the recessed bolts.
Here is a image of the adapter bolted up for mock up.
The recommended Hardware for this unit is M10 x 1.5mm Button head cap screws to hold the master cylinder to the adapter plate, and M12 x 1.75mm or 1/2" x 13 hex head socket cap screws.
I can provide these after final fitment is determined.
Prices are as follows:
1-9 People, $87.50 plus shipping.
10 or more people, $67.50 plus shipping.
Shipping will be, USPS Small flat rate box. $6.50 shipped and insured in the US of A, and $20.20 anywhere else in the world.
Added:
The push rod mounting point on the brake petal arm does need to be moved to provide appropriate braking force.
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PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
so what was the amount when you were said and done? 400-500?
I imagine this is going to require adapters, rebending the lines and blocking vacuum to the manifold...
Does the bracket come with the hardware..
With fittings and all around $400.
As of this minute no, but I can source it. If we actually get a few people I'll probably add it in.
Re-flaring the lines is the preferred method that people have done. A few have run short braided stainless lines with the correct adapters.
PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
If you convert to a manual brake master cylinder, where are the turbo guys getting their vaccum supply??
Jason
99 Z24
LG0/LD9 for Life
10 Year Bash Veteren
Would love to have one... Time to start checking the couch for spare change.
Blwn LD9 wrote:If you convert to a manual brake master cylinder, where are the turbo guys getting their vaccum supply??
Jason, Not 100% sure. I would ask PJ, Fetter, or Mike Iwan.
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PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
Just a heads up, looks like you can pickup the plain master for around $200 on amazon... I've seen as low as 175 but not sure how reliable the source.
Interested.
Would you mind posting the bolt pattern on the firewall side so I can see if it fits 2nd gens?
I'm interested, count me in!
Any chance you could take a picture of what would need to be done to the pedal push rod?
James Cahill wrote:Interested.
Would you mind posting the bolt pattern on the firewall side so I can see if it fits 2nd gens?
James that is fine. When I get back home tonight I'll post the dimensions.
Sparkey05 wrote:I'm interested, count me in!
Any chance you could take a picture of what would need to be done to the pedal push rod?
I have not does this yet, this is being installed one
Mike Iwans' cavalier. You could ask
DaFlyinSkwirl (Pj) about what he did. I believe he posted pictures and dimensions when he did it on the "squirrel." I'll look to see if I can find the posts.
PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
James,
The bolt holes are 87mm / 3.425" apart, and square top to bottom and side to side. Made for 1/2" or M12 hardware.
One of the stock holes is slotted a little on 3rd gens. The upper right, if I recall correctly.
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PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
I'm deff. In lol
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Working on getting a completely firm price for 10 people. Will update soon.
PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
If some info come up on what all needs to be done to make it a "bolt on" I will be in. Would like to know what else needs to be done with the lines and petal before i snag one.
Bah. I keep forgetting to measure it. In the morning I will.
Alex Meyers wrote:If some info come up on what all needs to be done to make it a "bolt on" I will be in. Would like to know what else needs to be done with the lines and petal before i snag one.
I would bug PJ, Fetter, or Mike about it....but I do not think mike has modified his peddle arm yet.
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PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
I was going to buy PJ's but since he is keeping his car now I will be making my own. When I get around to it I will takes lots of pictures.
Won't work on a second gen. This is a pic of our bolt pattern.
Hope to have firm pricing this week.
I'll update as soon as I do.
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M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
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