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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:50 PM
Joey Baggs (JCE Designs)
ok guys, ive read this thread 2 or 3 times, and I have a quick question.........

havent noticed anyone with air ride do this. by doing the rear disc conversion and using the washers/spacers, does it puch the rear wheel out much?

id like to do the conversion, just worried the rim might sit out a bit further making my rim/tires rub.

any input?






Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:16 PM
Cinny
Joey Baggs (JCE Designs) wrote:ok guys, ive read this thread 2 or 3 times, and I have a quick question.........

havent noticed anyone with air ride do this. by doing the rear disc conversion and using the washers/spacers, does it puch the rear wheel out much?

id like to do the conversion, just worried the rim might sit out a bit further making my rim/tires rub.

any input?


were talking 2mm for the shims, not much at all. the caliper backing plate is another 4-5mm compared to the OEM stuff, so were looking at a total of 6-7mm, but as always check for clearance. I would check to see what you have now before you do anything.



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:20 PM
Joey Baggs (JCE Designs)
i would say im close to that 6-7mm away(off the top of my head)

i guess ill have to get an accurate measurment of the distance i have to work with





Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:07 PM
Cinny
I know you have done allot of work to the car, is the inner lip of the rear fender "rolled in"? if not that may be all the room you need.



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:23 PM
Joey Baggs (JCE Designs)
ya, it is rolled, but im sure i could get a little more out of it if i try.





Re: Neon disc swap how to
Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:06 PM
James Cahill
SweetnessGT wrote: CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE POST BY VIPER... he mixed the part #'s up

after talking with someone, it looks like YES, brembo 27206 might not only be a thicker rotor that is 5x100, but is 1.5 mm SHALLOWER than the 27207 "neon" rotor. Meaning, that not only do you have a thicker rotor to absorb more heat and look nicer, but might also solve the rubbing issues where everyone needs to put a set of washers to space out the rotors from the hub. now, i THINK that this rotor is 57.1mm, and has the same exact internal brake drum setup, but i'm not 100% sure. Someone should REALLY try this out.

27207 is approx 0.35" thick, while the 27206 is 0.47" thick. You can also gain by having a 1.5mm shallower rotor and maybe not needing washers or a spacer anymore! Can be found on buybrakes.com for whoever wants to venture out If this is successful, score another point for me since July 07. I wouldve done this myself, but I went with a 11.25 vented setup *cough*


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I'll put 27206 on my parts list for the spring.




Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:32 PM
SweetnessGT
Just so you guys know about that 27206 rotor...

After a lot of research the rotors dimension are perfect for a J-body. 5x100, 57,1mm hub spacing, 0.47" rotor thickness, and a bit less backspacing than your neon rotor you've been using. I'll be using it on a non-neon rear swap for myself but I hope one of you guys can pick a set up and give it a try.. seems to be a better option for you all.

Good luck!

-Chris-



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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:06 PM
DFF- Breaking The Boundary
I remember that somone has had these stress tested. Does any one know who?

http://www.overkillengineeringmotorsports.com/
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Monday, February 11, 2008 1:01 PM
Joshua Dearman
Yeah, that would be me....I've done several tests on the many I've machined myself.
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Monday, February 18, 2008 5:55 AM
DFF- Breaking The Boundary
Do you know how much it cost, or where to have it done?

http://www.overkillengineeringmotorsports.com/
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Monday, February 18, 2008 9:05 AM
BlkCav
oh FYI everybody:

Ebrake still works great Super happy


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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Monday, February 18, 2008 4:45 PM
Troy Rose
I read this whole thread and Joshua Dearman had some machined brackets for sale at one time. Just wondering if they were still available(and what all comes with it) and what the cost would be shipped to 37620.

I have an 87 Z24 and didn't see any info on these but I guess its the same as the others.

Also so I have everything right in my head all I need is:

machined brackets
do some grinding on my axle for ebrake cable housing clearance
use the 27206 rotors so I don't need spacers
use Neon calipers and pads from the parts store
my ebrake cable should work fine
my stock 14" wheels should work fine
need to use adapters on the factory brake lines so they will connect to calipers.(no need for those 2psi valves?)
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:53 AM
John Marques
Great post guys. I just bought a set for my 94 grand am which have the same rear setup as the old Cavi's so hopefully it all works out.
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:44 PM
James Cahill
Troy Rose wrote:I read this whole thread and Joshua Dearman had some machined brackets for sale at one time. Just wondering if they were still available(and what all comes with it) and what the cost would be shipped to 37620.

I have an 87 Z24 and didn't see any info on these but I guess its the same as the others.

Also so I have everything right in my head all I need is:

machined brackets
do some grinding on my axle for ebrake cable housing clearance
use the 27206 rotors so I don't need spacers
use Neon calipers and pads from the parts store
my ebrake cable should work fine
my stock 14" wheels should work fine
need to use adapters on the factory brake lines so they will connect to calipers.(no need for those 2psi valves?)


It will work fine for your car. You don't need to grind the axle, and I'm not sure about your ebrake cable. Its different from the 3rd gen cable, and I'm pretty sure its different from mine (94). That would be something you need to try and see if it works or not. You don't need residual pressure valves.




Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:31 PM
cavy_98
hey guys is $100 a good deal for the rear disc brake set up from i think a 97 neon im thinkin of doin this on my 95 cav iv read pritty much this hole thread sofar lmk

Thanks
Matt


Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:03 PM
Viper98912
nope. i got brackets, calipers, hardware, and pads for $45. most people on here have been able to keep it between 30-60, with around 50 being the average.



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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:17 PM
Cinny
yeahh, even with new rotors, pads and calipers I was still only at about $120, and you would still need to have the brackets machined. you can do better if you pull your own stuff at a yard.



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:32 PM
cavy_98
ok thanks im tryin to get the guy to lower the price rapidly now lol Thanks guys

Matt


Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:54 PM
James Cahill
I think I paid $150 for just about the entire rear suspension off the Neon, plus a bunch of stuff from a Bonneville, so yeah, $50-60 sounds right.



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:57 PM
cavy_98
well i got him down to 75 and thats the lowest he will go with it so now i am just watin for pics to see what all it comes with
and then ill go from there


Re: Neon disc swap how to
Friday, April 04, 2008 5:28 AM
cavy_98
hey guys iv got the brakes now now i just need to get the dementions for the holes ill get a
shop to drill the holes i can get that done for free .... all the stuff i got is almost brand new
just has a lil bit of surface rust cuz they were sittin in the guys basment .... now i need to get
all of the other stuff then i can start on them



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:12 AM
Magik1109
can i put the washer behind the hub instead of on the studs?



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Monday, April 07, 2008 7:42 AM
James Cahill
I wouldn't recommend it from a safety standpoint. If you want to go that route, have a spacer plate made and use that.




Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:12 AM
Cavalier2000
Anyone have pictures of the front and rear lines installed?


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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Friday, April 25, 2008 10:27 PM
ge_forcez22
I have read through almost all of this, watched the video, etc, I have one question. Is is possible to grab the rotor and bearings from an intrepid or something simular to get the 5x115... I want to match the front bolt pattern.


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