more precisely though... how hard is it?
Pull the fuse or disconnect the sensors. Take your pick.
My Auto-Trans Interceptor turns off ABS. Actually last summer when I almost hit a moose, I SLAMMED on my brakes and I thought I was going to slide into the moose, my wheels locked and my car just STOPPED. And that disabled my ABS for a couple days lol.
ABS is great why would you want to remove it?
-Chris
Pulling the Fuse it the quickest way.
Again, why would you want to??
IamRascal wrote:ABS is great why would you want to remove it?
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Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.
Seriously. Why would you want to?
Most people who think they want to do this, really don't understand the benefits. These are the same people that want their airbags disabled because they don't believe they're safer with them.
Please explain your reasoning and we'll explain why it's flawed.
it winter it is needed , but not in summer when it increases emergency stopping distance.
Wrong! You lock your brakes and your stopping distance turned into slideing distance
and you have zero control in a panic stop skid. Besides what about when it rains?
ABS is not the same as it used to be in fact its a prooven fact that 2 identical cars one with ABS and one without ABS are thrown into a panic stop the car WITH ABS STOPS shorter then the non ABS car could ever hope to!
Just keep it there's no reason to remove it at all. Hell even race cars these days have ABS.
Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.
I think your meant to say decrease....
I autocross A LOT. If ABS isn't affecting my autocross runs I highly doubt it will affect your emergency stopping.
ABS also helps to ensure that you maintain control of the car while braking, when you lock up your wheels stopping you have no control of which direction the car goes because you've already lost traction.
A better option is to upgrade to some quality rotors and pads if you want to decrease your stopping distance.
Rotors:
- Bear Decela
- Powerslot
Pads:
- Hawk HP (best)
- EBC Green (good)
Also it's been covered before, unless you revert completely to a non-abs system simply pulling a fuse is not the same as a non-abs system.
The valves in an ABS module can also alter brake bias and pressure. Unless you know exactly what module you have and what it controls its safer not to risk anything.
-Chris
IamRascal wrote:ABS also helps to ensure that you maintain control of the car while braking, when you lock up your wheels stopping you have no control of which direction the car goes because you've already lost traction.
This is really the key here.
Depending on the circumstances, an expert driver can certainly outperform the ABS system in sheer stopping distances but unless you're being paid to drive competitively and winning, you are overestimating your skill level if you think you're this sort of driver.
With that said, in an emergency situation when you have to rely on nothing much more than instinct and split-second decisions, your driving abilities are greatly reduced over what you're capable of under normal circumstances. So as well as you can control your braking in the best of times, you have only a fraction of that when you're faced with an emergency.
Now when you consider what is involved in emergency threshold braking while trying to steer around an obstacle, there's just no way that you can outperform the ABS system in this situation.
With ABS, all you need to do is lay into the pedal to get the best braking power available to you. With your foot firmly planted, you can now concentrate fully on your emergency steering. This is what will save your bacon.
As mentioned, this applies to wet roads, gravel roads, and even dry roads if you're in an emergency and going quick enough.
he wants to kill him self
this is his cry for help
ok, here's my opinion about ABS. It is there for 'immature' drives to help simplify their lives on the road. It maybe a help in wet or icy conditions and even then you can still hold up to it . ABS is nothing but a release of extra force applied onto brakes which you can do yourself. It is there for elderly, soccer moms, kids that just got behind the wheel, or any other premature driver... Besides I am not talking about completely removing it... I just wanna disconnect it for the summer, when it actually underperforms.
P.S I am also getting Drilled/Slotted rotors with ceramic pads on the way...
Andrey B wrote:ok, here's my opinion about ABS. It is there for 'immature' drives to help simplify their lives on the road. It maybe a help in wet or icy conditions and even then you can still hold up to it . ABS is nothing but a release of extra force applied onto brakes which you can do yourself. It is there for elderly, soccer moms, kids that just got behind the wheel, or any other premature driver... Besides I am not talking about completely removing it... I just wanna disconnect it for the summer, when it actually underperforms.
P.S I am also getting Drilled/Slotted rotors with ceramic pads on the way...
Well, my opinion is that you are wrong, and don't understand anything about how a proper functioning ABS system works. ABS doesn't kick in because it thinks you need it, it kicks in because your about to lock up the tires.
As Wild Weasel said ABS gives you THE BEST braking power available.
Your best method of action would be not to follow anyone to closely then you wouldn't have to worry about emergency stopping.
You've already been given the answer to this question at the top of this thread. However if you will not head the advice of those who know and understand how ABS works its your life and your car in your own hands.
-Chris
IamRascal wrote:Andrey B wrote:ok, here's my opinion about ABS. It is there for 'immature' drives to help simplify their lives on the road. It maybe a help in wet or icy conditions and even then you can still hold up to it . ABS is nothing but a release of extra force applied onto brakes which you can do yourself. It is there for elderly, soccer moms, kids that just got behind the wheel, or any other premature driver... Besides I am not talking about completely removing it... I just wanna disconnect it for the summer, when it actually underperforms.
P.S I am also getting Drilled/Slotted rotors with ceramic pads on the way...
Well, my opinion is that you are wrong, and don't understand anything about how a proper functioning ABS system works. ABS doesn't kick in because it thinks you need it, it kicks in because your about to lock up the tires.
As Wild Weasel said ABS gives you THE BEST braking power available.
Your best method of action would be not to follow anyone to closely then you wouldn't have to worry about emergency stopping.
You've already been given the answer to this question at the top of this thread. However if you will not head the advice of those who know and understand how ABS works its your life and your car in your own hands.
actual abs only kicks in when a wheel has actually locked up, if you feel abs kick in, your already too late, not to mention abs can pump the brakes easily 100 times faster than you. your not better then abs believe me
Its not how fast your car goes....its how much nerve the driver has to push it that fast.
ok, you convinced me ...
then i guess i am just better off with a better braking system
a quick question though... in faq it says that crossdrilled rotors will wear out pads faster than slotted ones... is that really so? i always thought it was the other way around ... what can you say from your personal experience?
and how long do the pads usually last with them?
TurboEcotec5spdSwap wrote:he wants to kill him self
this is his cry for help
It'd be easier to just jump off the roof of a ten story building. Hell, just play Russian Roullette with a Glock 36. Guaranteed to work.
ABS is not the "BEST" braking. It's darn close though. The best is the maximum force without locking up the wheels. Trust me, I play around in the snow enough to know that using ABS is slightly longer stopping distance than carefully controlling the brakes. But even I wouldn't disable ABS. As stated above, if you got ABS to kick in, you're already too late (and utiizing abd would be better than sliding).
As for the Crossdrilled question, yes they wear ever so slightly faster in my experience. I think most people who have crossdrilled rotors are a bit harder on their brakes afterward, and wear through the pads faster that way. My $0.02
My only issue with the ABS is that it should cut out when you are going slow. eg. in the Winter when I am stopping on ice, once I get to about 5km/h I find it really annoying cause it just keeps working and it seems like it won't let the car stop. The Toyota's I drive at work will cut the ABS once you are almost stopped. Probably makes no real differance, but it feels like it does. But I agree that it is awesome most of the time.
I hate ABS. I don't care what anyone says about its benefits. Its a pointless, government mandated addition, and only reduces the skill of the driving public. If people paid more attention to what was going on around them, and planned accordingly, wether it be giving a hazard some extra room, or simply going slower, instead of talking on the damn phone, ABS wouldn't even need to be an option, let alone standard. Its a crutch for bad driving habits.
---end rant---
without that crutch people would be falling over instead of getting by.. id rather have them getting by than crashing all the time
rip them off and sell me your wheel sensors, ive been without abs for almost 6 months now lol.
