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Jason wrote:SHOBS wrote:Thanks...I did read it. I didn't mean to come across like that. Sorry if it sounded like I brushed it off. I was just looking for an actual account of someone's product usage I guess. But I trust you guys enough not to waste the money on them. I think I'm gonna go ahead and save up for air ride. I was just wanting somethin small before summertime. Thanks again guys.
Just wondering if you're going for performance or looks? Air ride isn't so much for performance as it is for looks. If you're going the performance route, steer clear, if not, they would be great.
not true. bags handle just a well as coils. ive had both and the cornering is pretty much the same
Most tracks will not let you on with bags
My Cav
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Short Hand wrote:[quote=ßãggéÐÇåv98 (Ûñqùðtäߣè Øñé)]Jason wrote:SHOBS wrote:Thanks...I did read it. I didn't mean to come across like that. Sorry if it sounded like I brushed it off. I was just looking for an actual account of someone's product usage I guess. But I trust you guys enough not to waste the money on them. I think I'm gonna go ahead and save up for air ride. I was just wanting somethin small before summertime. Thanks again guys.
Just wondering if you're going for performance or looks? Air ride isn't so much for performance as it is for looks. If you're going the performance route, steer clear, if not, they would be great.
not true. bags handle just a well as coils. ive had both and the cornering is pretty much the same
Most tracks will not let you on with bags
bags are NOWHERE near coilovers...
most companies do not make performance air kits for cars...a kit not made for performance is NOT gonna handle anywhere near something MADE for performance.
for starters, air pressure setups will never handle as crisp and precise and a spring/strut coilover setup.
anyone who has ever driven BOTH and actually pushed the car on a track will admit to this. as it stands only one company PRAXXIS which makes an air ride setup for the WRX so far....
but it reflects in the price.
and the avg person on here is gonna compare a setup of cheaper ebay type coilovers with struts that dont match.... which basically you bounce around most of the time.....
thats NOT handling. it might feel like its on rails, but until you get something decent and take it out on a track and actually push the car, you really wont feel a difference. i thought the same for a bit, but i learned a boatload starting in autoX with the mandatory ride alongs and driving different setups.
I have a set of shock/strut=coils overs all from dropzone. I put them on my o4 cav along with some tower braces and the car handles like a dream!!!!. So i really dont understand the problem everyones havin. I have alot of crap storys about Koni,Kyb,Eibach aslo. I love all these companys and respect them for what they do. But just because U spend a bunch of money on a coilover system doesnt mean it is automatically a better one. Almost like batteries, have U ever noticed how much longer a "no Name " brand will last than a "Top of the line"? (sometimes) Please dont think im trying to bash You guys because im not. Our cars are an extention of oourselves and to each his own. Just likewhen we put stereos in our trunks as soon as we did it. Alot of us spent the next few weeks to months replacing fuses speakers etc. The only true way to never have a problem is to leave the car alone. Other than that reguardless of what brand u use as long as we all are customizin our cars. we all are gonna have problems. In no way though am I tellin u to cheap out on your car parts though.
Replyin to the post above about the escort in the ditch? Well thats what u get when buy a ford. I'd rather walk than drive a car with the "F" word on it!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I know. When I bought the wheels, I got one heck of a deal. But the place was tryin to stick me with 205/40's. I don't know how that one was supposed to work, but I finally talked em into the 215/40's. The speedo bein off doesn't bother me, but the fender gap drives me nuts. I'm not gonna go out and buy new tires now unless I get a good deal on some. But yeah, the drift kit is the lowest I know of.
"Man with my windows tinted and badges gone I'll be able to do 200 mph easy. Do stickers add horsepower?"
I don't know why i should respond. Dropzone coil overs are just generic coil overs not made specifically for the cavalier. I have seen a few and they look all exactly a like. May be it is working for some. It may handle like the dream but how is the ride. Describe the ride. Does it have a bouce to it.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
Mylife75 (ajose) wrote:I don't know why i should respond. Dropzone coil overs are just generic coil overs not made specifically for the cavalier. I have seen a few and they look all exactly a like. May be it is working for some. It may handle like the dream but how is the ride. Describe the ride. Does it have a bouce to it.
i pretty much dont argue w/ the people that say they are good. the majority of the time the people who say they ride good, never rode on a true good suspension (im not sayin' everyone but the majority) so i dont consider they reviews on it.
For the streets where i live the ride is real good!! But understand where i live 98 precent of my drive is in a downtown setting. The streets are nicely paved and there are (hardly) any pot holes . So again it rides like a dream!!! Does it bounce???? Yes but not as boucey as the drop spring i had. Maybe im doin somethin wrong. I aint trying to make u mad but If u didnt kno why u were responding to this post......then dont. Just like I was sayin i have my own horror stories about all your "top of the line" companys. What works for u doesnt work for me. And im not arguing wit ya man, hes right this is not a review of these springs. And yes i have riding on a "real" suspension and know that the ride that comes along with mysetup is no where near what the other felt like. It works for the way I use my vehicle though. Dang yall, I just said mine rode nice I didnt say hurry up run out and buy a pair.
Bouncing is not riding nice. Just because you don't care that it bounces, doesn't make it acceptable. Bouncing can be dangerous.
The sole purpose to having shock absorbers is to prevent the springs from bouncing. They exist to absorb the energy in the springs when they compress so the tires can stay firmly in contact with the ground. If the springs bounce, then the dampers are unable to control them and should be changed.
If you bounce even slightly then your suspension is not doing its job. May be it is fine for you but when you post infor like that inexperience people go out buy suspension then come back and complain. I have seen it over and over again. Where you live is a factor as well. Where i live that set will suck big time.
We just want to inform people because someone is going to quote you and want to know what the problem is. People will not read it is works for you. I have riden in cars with similar suspension. All it did for my was hurt my back. That is why i spent extra for a better set up. I have been throught the riding on stock struts and lowered spring and i will never do it again. My ride is stiff not bouncy it is stiff.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
First......nowhere in the above post does it say that I dont care about "the bounce" Maybe it was the way i came off for that im sorry. Im not tryin to fight a battle for dropzone. All i was stating was that compared to the last ride it gave me. This was an improvement to me. This car was jacked when i was recieved it,and yes i witnessed first hand on how bouncing can kill!! literally. This car doesnt even see the higway so i couldnt tell you how the really rode. I do hate the bounce though, but it just seems like you get bounce with anything(some more than others) in your opinion what would u recomend I switch too? Seriously, im no car tech by far im sure u can tell. but at the same time im not gonna dump money into it if its gonna break ya kno? I like coilover cause of the drop i get from them. Who sells a good pair.
Wild Weasel wrote:Bouncing is not riding nice. Just because you don't care that it bounces, doesn't make it acceptable. Bouncing can be dangerous.
The sole purpose to having shock absorbers is to prevent the springs from bouncing. They exist to absorb the energy in the springs when they compress so the tires can stay firmly in contact with the ground. If the springs bounce, then the dampers are unable to control them and should be changed.
totally agree....
saying, it rides like a dream, but then saying it bounces, it like saying something tastes like CRAP, but its still delicious....
you contradict yourself even saying something rides like a dream, but bounces....
and if its on fresh paved road AND it bounces....
realistically thats SH-T....
just cause it doesnt bounce as much as a drop spring, doesnt mean jack....besides the fact you;ve now have two craptacular suspension setups...
honestly.
Ok. So I am still following these posts and see the opinions here are varied. Mostly against Drop Zone. I too am not fighting a battle for them. I know that my set up works nicely. Thier struts and Gold Line springs. My ride is nice not bouncey. I have had kick ass set ups on my Neon and my Jetta as well as a couple other cars. yes the ride was better with other set ups (more expensive). I am riding on this set up out of neccesity. It was what I could afford. I am trying to pay doctors to keep from going blind and maintain my car and send my Honor roll Student daughter to Paris next month. I would love a more expensive set up and hopefully when they figure out what is wrong and put it in check I will be able to save and but good stuff. The key word is SAVE! By the way I bought some rotors for my car from iRotors.com and got them for $95 shipped! Cross drilled slotted and zinc coated. I could not beat the deal. They were actually $74 plus shipping. Super Nice! AtLeast I think anyhow. Just another opinion on something else.
yes being safe is the most important but at what cost? being safe isnt buying what you can afford at the time being unless its a proper setup. these struts are straight garbage and thats a fact. they will not handle any drop and will blow very easily
Enough postin, Im switchin plain and simple. I guess i did contradict myself, either way "it bounces" and it isnt worth the headache it will cause in the long run. If is isnt safe then it just plain out not safe. If you half ass a vehicle in any way. You can garrantee problems. I guess while im at it i can go ahead and install this "Sparkomatic" head unit in my car to go with the crappy coilovers. I know exactly what he means by money is tight. Also if u use a setup thats in a low price range or off ebay. Unfortunately there probrably crap. Someone posted and said all dropzone coilovers are alike. So I went and took a look for myslef. Sure enough its like they use the term"ONe size fits all" or "One side fits most" Today im goin for a ride on koni yellows with the rksport coilovers. therenot mine but a kid told me that I may like them more than my current setup. He aslo informed that I should get rid of the set up i hAD. So in other words yes save ur money to buy the better part, its all worth it. Im guilty of wanting results now not later? That will make u buy crap buy parts/and now im don doin that. I dont kno bout u but i bought my cavi brand new an Gm would probrably smack me if they seen the crappy suspension i put on. At least thats the only parts i cheaped out on. the rest are AEM,Magnaflow,Pacetter(spelling)and MSD pro Ign. Please dont tell me these are crap too!?
Wild weasle, i as thinkin and u should make that into a sticker
"Bouncin Aint Ridin" What u think?
Funky Bottoms (Event) wrote:Mylife75 (ajose) wrote:i remember someone saying it looke like rebadged Gabriels.
exactly... rebadged from venezuela, same exact numbers, simply different paint. crap.
here's one from event himself (who no offense to you has done way more for this platform and know more about this platform and the products available for it then you ever will beefy) who tell's you that they're rebadged oem struts.
should i keep digging dj beefy?
no offense taken, i just did enough to make my daily's a little more fun. nothing super duper done to em. but id like to see this from something recent like the set i had on and still sitting here but in storage. plus i got a great deal on them way better than ebay, if i could of i would have preferred the koni yellow sport set but could not justify over 1000 between the set and the new mounts just for suspension.
