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Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:39 AM
Whats Up every body!

I've slowly been gathering parts for a suspension upgrade. So far I have:

Tokiko HP struts
Suspension Techniques springs
Monroe front strut mounts
Gabriel rear strut mounts
Strut Mate front strut boots

The remaining parts I plan to get are:

Prothane bushings set( from gravana tuning, control arm, motor mounts, rear axle, transmission )
front & rear swaybars ( not sure which brand yet, expecting stock front & aftermarket rear )

Hears the thing though, I brought a pair of junkyard complete front strut assemblies for 25$
to familiarize myself with the setup. I noticed two things.

The first, I noticed part from the junkyard assembly and part from j-body.org. The spring bumpstops. The Monroe strut mounts do not seem to have come with them. ( only the mount, bearing, & bearing plate ). My question is can I use the one's from the junkyard assembly or should I buy new ones? & if I should buy new ones, from where? cause I've been looking & everytime I get these small looking bolt bumpstops.

The second thing I noticed is that the Monroe strut mounts dont seem to have any camber like the OEM strut mounts. Is this something I should be concerned about, should I be looking for camber plates like the ones mcmoney made?

Also everything above is to the best of my knowledge, If I have made an error anywhere please let me know, Im relatively new to this stuff, but I'd like to be a DIY'er.

Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:36 PM
Bumps: Use the junk yard ones unless you see something wrong with them. Most drivers never hit them anyway.

Camber: Standard mounts will not have any camber adjustment. You'd have to get camber plates for that, like McMoney's.

DIY: Overall looks good. A bit strange that you have all that performance stuff (bushings, swaybars, strut bars, etc) and you cheaped out on the meat and potatoes of your suspension (Springs and Struts).



Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Monday, January 16, 2006 7:19 AM
Thanks for the answers, one thing though, About the camber. Im not talking about adjustability, Im just talkin about the angled OEM mount. Should I be concerned that the Monroe Mount doesnt have an angle (camber)?

lol, its funny u mentioned the "Meat & Potatoes". I brought the struts first. It seemed like it was gonna take me forever to get them. but they were by far the most expensive piece, so I thought I would balance quality w/price. But since Im slowly gathering the parts anyway, I think I may sell them & get a better set. (Everything still in the box NIB!!!, for u ebayers :-))

The springs however, I wanted to get the Eibach Prokits, but I think they may be too low, & I dont wanna take that chance.

Prolly change to Eibachs after these springs are on, so I can get a better judgement of ride height.
Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Monday, January 16, 2006 7:55 AM
get rid of the HP's, sell them, return them,whatever.

Your not going to get very good results unless you get adjustable shocks, the HP's are just aftermarket replacements. With S-techs your going to want Koni Yellows, not cheap, but worth the money. AGX's are good too, but you'll void the warranty on them with the S-tech springs.

Also there really is no need to replace the stock strut mounts, unless your going toward something like a camber plate, or solid pillowball mounts.


-Chris

Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Monday, January 16, 2006 8:59 AM
He's not talking about S-Techs, he said Suspension Techniques (SusTech). SusTechs are 1.1" drop and will work on the HPs. Tien S-Techs are 1.7" drop and will work on Koni and D-Specs only.

Yeah the Monroe mount should have an angle to it IIRC. Possible you got the wrong part, or maybe they changed the design, or maybe I can't remember correctly... Anyone else know?



Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:14 PM
Hey C.T.S, I just learned a hard lesson. Know your part #!

You were right, wrong part, I just looked it up on Monroes site and its a freakin 92 beretta mouint!!!! GRRRRRRR!!!!! And I told them its a 95 cavalier!! And I dont have the receipt!!! GRRRRR!!! Thats what I get for trustin my neighborhood Straussauto. Some people know what they are doin, but some people dont! LOL, I guess Im the latter in this situation

Oh well, lesson learned! I guess now I should consider a pillowball mount

Thanx again guys
Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:22 PM
why not use your stock mounts?


Re: Standard Strut Mount vs. Camber Plate?
Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:42 PM
i figure since they are mad of rubber & they are over 10 years old, Id get some solid ones that would further eliminate play in the suspension setup. Now that I think about it, Even if I had gotten the Monroes, they were rubber too. heh, go figure
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