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84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:25 PM
1986 Firenza 2.0 with a 4 speed manual. Want to swap it into a 1984 Cav Auto trans. Could be getting the entire car for parts, pretty sure everything will bolt right up. Anyone know for sure? Does anyone out there have a Firenza?

Potential donor car



Thanks,

John


















Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:55 PM
Idk why it would not.That looks exactly like my engine and being a J it all is the same stuff on the hard core items.There maybe some mild differences on a few odd items but,as long as the trans,mounts and cables look spot on the same you probably will be fine.I am kinda wore out yardwork all afternoon and a touch of sunburn.



Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:50 PM
Now where have I seen this Olds before? Definitely remember those red wheels!!

Surprised to discover Olds sold both OHC and OHV engines, the ones at the old Yard I frequented had the Brazil engines.

Pretty sure you are swapping this in the the Brown Vert, John. If so, you'll be going back to a distributor Ignition since you are presently running a 2.2. Swapping the wiring harness and computer will be mandatory. Cross fingers and hope your IC will still function, since Olds has a completely different dash. You'll need to cut a hole in firewall for clutch, luckily you have the Blue Vert for a guide.

Only other issues I can think of would be the splines in the front hubs possibly being different, and the transmission mount location. Nothing time money and talent can't take care of!



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Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:08 PM
Dash is definitely different. But the car was a TOTAL mess. Seller wants $800 for it and about the only salvageable parts are the front header panel, transmission and possibly the engine. I have been watching it for sale since November of 2012 when he was asking $1,200 for it. He claimed I could drive it home 150 miles with the rear trailing arm rusted badly (well not me). Really that car is a LOT worse than the pictures show and it should be scrapped . I have concluded that I do not want a 4 speed even though that one seemed to function pretty good with a weak clutch........ Well the search continues for the donor 5 speed.










Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Friday, April 19, 2013 4:42 AM
Orlen Brown wrote:Now where have I seen this Olds before? Definitely remember those red wheels!!

Surprised to discover Olds sold both OHC and OHV engines, the ones at the old Yard I frequented had the Brazil engines.

Pretty sure you are swapping this in the the Brown Vert, John. If so, you'll be going back to a distributor Ignition since you are presently running a 2.2. Swapping the wiring harness and computer will be mandatory. Cross fingers and hope your IC will still function, since Olds has a completely different dash. You'll need to cut a hole in firewall for clutch, luckily you have the Blue Vert for a guide.

Only other issues I can think of would be the splines in the front hubs possibly being different, and the transmission mount location. Nothing time money and talent can't take care of!



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Orlen why would he need a distributor, wiring harness, & computer just for a transmission change especially to a manual transmission? I don't think he'd need any of that for it to run right.

Than Olds would make a nice drag car if it's as far gone as you say John, I can already picture a Rocket 350 in the engine bay lol.








Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Friday, April 19, 2013 4:49 AM
John, there is an 86' z24 in my local salvage yard with a 4 speed in it. Its like the 87' skyhawk they have there. Both are relatively intact still.



Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Friday, April 19, 2013 9:44 AM
Reason I wrote that Spike , was because John is running a later 2.2 + Auto in his '84 Vert and knowing the 2.2's used only 5 spds, I was guessing he was going to swap engine and transmission together. Maybe I missed something.




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Re: 84 Cav Auto to Manual Trans Swap Question
Friday, April 19, 2013 2:41 PM
Was going to swap the engine and trans from the Olds as a set. Would have paid a little more for it if the motor was stronger and trans had a new clutch it it. Thanks for the offer Josh but I think the shipping would kill me and I think the V6 5 spd is different than the 4 cyl.
Plus I am looking for a complete car with everything I need.













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