Anyone know definitively what the state law is for: Neon, Exterior lighting, Tint, air bags, steering wheels, or anything else?
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neons are illegal unless the car is parked, no colored licence plate frames, absolutely no strobes whether parked or now, air bags i dont think matters, steering wheels doesnt matter. Some people are saying tint is completely illegal now but i think you can be safe with 35%. Everything else they are leniant on, at least around here.
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yea neons you can only have on parked. you might be able to get away w/ them while driving as long as their not red, blue or green.
corner lights have to be amber and amber only but ive ran white for a while and never had problems. reverse lights are needed (saying this if you have a shaved trunk lid). tail lights cant be clear and need to have some sort of red reflector on them (atleast a few years ago thats how it was)
air bags are needed to pass inspection. i believe in pa you need both but not positive.
search the tint thread in this forum there was a huge discussion. pa law is you must have 75% of light shining through your windows. most cops dont really care if its like 35%-15% but if they want to get you for it they can.
wrong... airbags aren't needed to pass inspection. i have an aftermarket steering wheel and have passed inspection 2 years now and know a few others with aftermarket wheels and no problems..
as for tint, 78% light transmittancy (aka stock) is legal but it's really at the officer's discretion. i've been pulled over once for my tint in the 3 years i've had it.
if you google, you can actually find most information between vehicle laws/codes and inspeciton requirements.
Speaking of inspection, and emmisions
What kind of things should I be looking to set up with my ride coming from outta state?
I know I can't keep the y2K tails at the time.
But what about the sway bars, or the ghetto intake, or anyting like that?
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neons can be on when parked in most areas but can be ticked just for having them as far as strobes and any other ornamental lighting u will be nailed for anything blue or red I know u will get hit for 2 tickets ornamental lighting and impersonating an emergency vehicle. air bags depends on what u mean the ones that go off when u wreck i do not believe they are mandatory and they don't check for them is y i say so if u mean air bags as in suspension it is illegal steering wheels u will prob not get pulled over for but may have an issue with inspection.
mastin... different counties have different inspection standards... at least on emissions anyways.
strat81 wrote:mastin... different counties have different inspection standards... at least on emissions anyways.
Yep... some Counties have emissions, others dont. Even at that, it's a diagnostic emissions test. they test your gas cap pressure, and if it's 96 and newer, hook your car up to the OBDII port and check for engine codes.
The airbag/steeringwheel thing is iffy. Some places will fail you if you've removed OEM safety equipment, others don't seem to really look at it much. Some places strictly adhere to the inspection testing standards, some don't.
i know at my work at a car dealership they always say it only has to look that way for only one day. inspection that is.
sway bars are okay, suspension it doesn't matter as long as it isn't blown. exhaust i think it has to stay below 80(?) decibals and have a cat and muffler.
no extra lights. now they did tell me that anything below the dash inside is okay. i mean cars are coming off the lot like that now. i was told by a police officer that rear tint is okay front three windows can't be touched. but it seems that is more the descretion of the officer than anything else.
here airbags make no difference.
just some stuff i have picked up at the shop. oh i would see if you could get ahold of an inspection guideline manual. i was looking at my friends and it is really informative.
http://www.helpelijah.com
This is the page where it tells you what you need to pass inspection.
I work at a body shop in Pa and while we dont do inspections we can tell you what passes or not most of the time. Here is a quick list
Window Tints - Back Window and rearseat windows about 75% of light has to come thru. However most places pass you if you have front side windows tinted as it has become so common now. Factory Privacy glass is allowed. However most inspectors and cops will let you get away with limo tint on rear windows and rear side windows. The windshield is not supposed to be tinted anymore than OEM, however some inspectors allow up to about 15% tint to pass.
IT IS UP TO THE COPS TO PULL YOU OVER FOR IT OR NOT, IF THEY THINK IT IS VIOLATING ANY LAWS.
Emmissions - Here is what we tell people who want to put on aftermarket exhaust, we tell people that if all posible keep your stock exhaust at least until you know your aftermarket one passes inspection. That also goes for other engine mods aswell.
Airbags (internal) If you have the OEM steering Wheel that came with an airbag then you need to have it installed. If you have an Aftermarket wheel then you dont need it. However your insurace company may charge you slightly more if yoou take them out.
Suspension - OEM or Direct replacement is recomended. However nothing is disallowed as long as it works right. However living in PA all my life I can tell you that with the way the winters are you dont want a car to be to low as it will sorta act like a plow... lol
Carbon Fiber - Hoods and Trunks are allowed. Doors are not allowed. Fenders are kinda iffy right now as well as carbon fiber body kits. However more and more car companys are looking about moving towards more carbon fiber as it becomes cheaper to use than metal.
Neon - It is not allowed while moving however as long as it is not red/blue sometimes you can get away with it while driving. LEDs are still kinda undecided upon. Nothing says they are Illegal, however most cops consider them to be under the "Neon" laws.
Strobes/ other lighting - As long as they are not red/blue then most inspectors I know around me pass them. However they cannot be used while driving (except for parades, ect...) As far as interior lights their is supposed to be none of anykind except OEM. However most inspectors dont check that, but Cops will pull you over most of the time, even if they dont really care its just to be a pain in the butt...lol
Body Kits - Anything as long as the width does not extend 3" past the OEM width on each side. However most inspectors dont check it unless it appears to be wider than would fit in a trafic lane (which rarely happens)
Wheels/Tires - They really not supposed to stick out more than about 1 1/2 - 2 inches past the side of the body. However there is some leway.
Thats pretty much the basics as to what we help people with. Like I said we dont due inspections, but we will check a car before it goes to inspection to see if their is anything that wont pass as far as we know. Alot of inspectors from smaller shops or people that only due inspection will give you more leway than Places that are nationwide or regional inspection places.
Also remember that even though the inspection is good for a year, unless you get in trouble with the law it is only checked on one day
Now I got a question that kinda goes along with this, and everybody I ask doesnt know the answer.
How come you can have the backwindow of a truck completly non-see-thru from the outside from the tints that are like flags and stuff, but they are not allowed on cars?
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How come you can have the backwindow of a truck completly non-see-thru from the outside from the tints that are like flags and stuff, but they are not allowed on cars?
For some reason trucks and I'm guessing also larger SUVs they put in a diff class.
I know what you mean though,
Country flag designs, eagles, and other stuff on all these pick ups and yet no problems.
Its not fair...booo!!!!
-M
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cars, trucks and suvs all have their own different laws on tint. a trucks back window can be painted black if they want to. there is no limit on a truck on how dark the rear window must be.
last summer i went to get my car inspected and they wouldnt do it because i was on a lowered suspension. I had to swap in my stock suspension just to inspect it. Just depends to what inspection shop you take it to.
^^ thats crazy.
also as for the neon light law. if you look in the code book legally you can have up to two 36" light bars i think it quotes on while driving so that includes any aux light not just neon so in most cases you could get away with having just the side tubes on if you felt wiring it that way. (if no one believes me look it up i know for a fact it has been discussed in this forum before!)
also clear bulbs in front or rear turn signals are deff illegal but most inspectors will not care. i have been running clear bulbs in my front turn signals and side markers for over a year now (bright as hell) and not a single hassle over it yet!
Exhaust is a touchy subject around here i know if you got a chinese rice cannon on your car anytime after about 10 pm you have a very good chance of getting some negative attention.
airbag suspension is deff illegal but some inspectors will let it slide!
intake @!#$ dont matter!
stearing wheels pretty sure its up to the cop! but i think its legal to change it. also just a heads up you will get exra attention if you get pulled over and have red or any color flip up style toggle switches ( anything that looks like a nitrous switch) have had that problem many times now it gets old!
as for lowering anything under a 2" drop you have the chance of getting yanked for!
just a few things i know
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Right now my main concern is the steering wheel I modified. Technically it is the stock steering wheel with functioning air bag. But I have removed the passenger air bag altogether. I'm sure if the cop is a prick he is going to nail me for a million things anyhow.....specifically the eight - 60 watt bulbs in blue for my Knight Rider scanner.
I can say that in Dubois and Punxsy you can have the neon on in a parking lot without getting fined. I've had cops come by more than once just because they were interested in looking over the car and asking questions. But this reinforces what we have been talking about at the shop. Especially when people are mad every week because we won't install tint or neon.
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I got a ticket with me Neon's on and it was parked....Just letting you guys know that I called about it and they said that if the cops want to they can give you a ticket and you cant do nothing about it but try to fight it.....I got a $120 fine and I was parked...BUT If you park make sure you are off the street and not on the street...Park on a private lot and parking lot......Thats what they told me here in Erie.......
