Does anyone know the law for use and transporting nitrous oxide in NY state? Or know where i can find the answer?
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not sure if it is correct, but i heard that it has to be in a place you cant reach the nozzle(like the trunk), and it cant be activated(open for use) while driving on the streets. so basically, you can have it, just not accessable or turned on while driving. but this is just from "off-duty" cops. never heard it "strait from the horses mouth"
Fred Ohlson "The people that devised this cruel attempt
at acceptance and fame burn in there honda civics"
yea it think you can have the bottle but i dont think it can be hooked up. not 100% sure but i think thats what i heard from someone else. the best thing toi do is go to your local precinct and ask them yourself
Concensus accross most states is:
In the car? Yes
Connected? No
It's not an illegal substance, so if its in the car and your not using it it's like transporting any other type of gas such as propane.
This is how it is in MD
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i personally am not a bottle fed kinda person i think NOs is sum gay stuff i like it better "ALL THROTTLE NO BOTTLE" plus hooking it up to a 4 cyl is like setting a time bomb n also if u can have it in ur car but can't use it then whats the sence of having it ( just my opinions)
^^^dont speak if you dont know what you're talking about. he asked for info, not your opinion
Fred Ohlson "The people that devised this cruel attempt
at acceptance and fame burn in there honda civics"
^^^ you cant use it at the track not the street. .duh. its dangerous on the road and thats why they let you have it and not use it.
ShiftyCav wrote:^^^ you cant use it at the track not the street. .duh. its dangerous on the road and thats why they let you have it and not use it.
no kidding, i was referring to his "NOS is like a timebomb on a 4 cylinder" comment. and its Nitrous/N2O not NOS. Nos is a brand of nitrous equipment
Fred Ohlson "The people that devised this cruel attempt
at acceptance and fame burn in there honda civics"
Thanks for all the info guys.
And Jeff yes Nitrous Oxide (not NOS thats a name brand) is for track use only. And putting nitrous in any engine (not only a 4 banger) with out using the proper precautions or misusing it will make any engine a time bomb.
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eazy i wasnt pointing at your comment. . we both posted at the same time so it looks like im pointing at you. and plus, putting anything on your car incorrectly will make it hazardous to everyone. . it doesnt just have to be something like N20, it could be that you install something on your suspension wrong and causes you to lose control while driving.
jeff heyman wrote:i personally am not a bottle fed kinda person i think NOs is sum gay stuff i like it better "ALL THROTTLE NO BOTTLE" plus hooking it up to a 4 cyl is like setting a time bomb n also if u can have it in ur car but can't use it then whats the sence of having it ( just my opinions)
thank you Brian Spillner
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I SATCHMOE YOU!!!! wrote:99redz24 wrote:jeff heyman wrote:i personally am not a bottle fed kinda person i think NOs is sum gay stuff i like it better "ALL THROTTLE NO BOTTLE" plus hooking it up to a 4 cyl is like setting a time bomb n also if u can have it in ur car but can't use it then whats the sence of having it ( just my opinions)
thank you Brian Spillner
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Fred Ohlson "The people that devised this cruel attempt
at acceptance and fame burn in there honda civics"
I had a nitrous bottle in my car before sitting behind the driver's seat. My car is a convertible. I was taking the bottle home... not hooked up but you couldn't tell. It was in plain view when I got pulled over that day for something with my tags...... I told the cop that I had just bought the car and was taking it home (I picked up the bottle on the way home from picking up the car.) I know that he saw the bottle but he didn't say anything about it. It is painted flat black but you can tell what it is if you know anything about cars. My other two bottles are NOS brand and all bright and fruity-looking... It may have been different with one of them but really who knows. If you are sensible with the way you drive, I doubt you should catch anything for it. If there is no reason to pull you over nobody will know you have it. Just don't go around purging all over the place.
The flat black bottle is now hooked up to the sunbird as a daily driver. It is a total PITA to take out of the car. I'm not going to tell you to do it every weekend because I don't myself. Just disconnect the line going into the bottle.
The comment about 4-cylinder engines and nitrous is plain rediculous. It is all about tuning. I'm running 20psi and a 50hp wet shot of nitrous on my sunbird with an MSD iginition system that pulls timing under boost and a multi-step retard system wired up with the nitrous. If you build an engine, it is totally safe.
Your "all throttle, no bottle" moto isn't going to get you anywhere. You can't make excuses why one car is faster than the other. What it all comes down to is how much research, time and money went into your engine.
Not to knock you, but you have the slowest engine/transmission combonation to ever be put in a j-body. If you want to get ahead of the competition you are going to need some sort of power adder.
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what im trying to get at is y beef up a 4 banger for nitrous to me it's a plain waste of money turbo yes supercharger yes but y nitrous it's a waste of time cuz u have to keep refilling it turbos n super chargers u tun em n they go forever n uless u got the 2.4 don't even waste ur time im just trying to make a point n u guys out there are all bashing me for stating sumthign that is true n btw puttin nos in a 4 banger is like a time bomb no matter if u build ur motor up or not a 4 cyl eng is not meant to with stand that much heat and pressure ur bound to blow sumthing to smitheriens
jeff heyman wrote:what im trying to get at is y beef up a 4 banger for nitrous to me it's a plain waste of money turbo yes supercharger yes but y nitrous it's a waste of time cuz u have to keep refilling it turbos n super chargers u tun em n they go forever n uless u got the 2.4 don't even waste ur time im just trying to make a point n u guys out there are all bashing me for stating sumthign that is true n btw puttin nos in a 4 banger is like a time bomb no matter if u build ur motor up or not a 4 cyl eng is not meant to with stand that much heat and pressure ur bound to blow sumthing to smitheriens
please, stop talking out your ass Brian Spillner. Rick King made hundreds of passes down the strip with a 100 on his NOS TIME BOMB on stock internals and never had a problem. i made over 94 passes down the strip since march this year using NOS my car still runs great.
and you ask why nitrous? well why a turbo? why a supercharger? why build up a V8? cause its fun
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Just check out jeff's car profile and check out the pic... it'll explain a lot. Hubcaps were removed to look cool and for weight reduction.
holly @!#$ cooter, ur still alive?!?!?!?!?
SedanCavi114 wrote:holly @!#$ cooter, ur still alive?!?!?!?!?
Alive, kicking, busy, and drunk most of the time
w/e man u seem to be god all hail mighty god of the j bodys
ya know im sick of this @!#$ all ready u guys need to grow up n learn to take opinions n just let them go if they don't applie to you n as for the hub caps i took them off cuz they were cracked sorry i don't have a nice car like most of you but you have to start some where n when u have a family u r family comes first douch bags
jeff heyman wrote:w/e man u seem to be god all hail mighty god of the j bodys
i never said or thought i was a "GOD" of j bodys. but when you make stupid statements like you did above you are going to get flamed. plain and simple
and you really need to take your own advice and "grow up n learn to take opinions n just let them go "
Im a Xbox 360 fanboy...and damn proud of it!!
funny how u just read that n all ways copy n past my post's nall i di was voice my opinion not tell ne one what to do
but ne ways im done with j body i found out that j body . org is nothign but a bunch of cocky lil ignorant ass holes that allways gotta open thier mouths and bash sumones car who is just starting out
^^^^^^^^^There is a difference between an opinion and telling somebody their car is a time bomb. Opinions are usually well thought out and don't include any uninformed statements. Fact is, V8s aren't made to handle nitrous either. No cars are. The engines are made to get you from point A to point B. V8s are made to do it faster with sucky gas milage. It's all about efficincey. You can't say a 4 cylinder is made to handle a turbo but not nitrous, because they do the same exact thing. Turbochargers compress air going into the engine to increase its density and give the engine the ability to burn more fuel. They use intercoolers to reduce the temperatures because cylinder temperatures that hot is the main cause of detonation. Nitrous does the same thing by drasticly decreasing the temperature of air. Break it down. N20 - one part nitrogen to two parts oxygen. Nitrogen alone has to be compressed to around 600psi to take a liquid form. Oxygen is about the same, I think it takes a little less. So the compound is already denser in oxygen concentraion because of the molecular breakdown. Pressurize it and make it stable at 1000+psi and you've got an increadibly HOT liquid. Let it cool down. Now you've got a liquid that when decompressed becomes a gas at far below subzero temperatures with INCREADIBLE amounts of densified oxygen. Add a fuel jet and you've got a huge amount of power on the spot. The power of course is roughl 100% efficient because the engine doesn't have to do anything else. So why do people break things on the bottle? They either A: don't add more fuel becoming increadibly hot because your IAT can't compensate, or B: they add a huge shot and the sudden jolt of power stresses engine internals or the quicker revving stresses engine internals far beyond their capabilities.
A built engine and a wet shot is 100% safe. Nitrous actually compliments turbocharged on supercharged vehicles because it can significantly reduces cylinder temperatures all while increasing the efficiency of the whole system.
Now you are probably going to ask "If they do the same thing, why wouldn't you just run more boost and get rid of the nitrous all together?"
Very simple question, simple answer:
I built my engine to handle well over 400hp, but that was the goal HP I wanted to hit on the dyno. I used a larger turbocharger and an equal length turbo header to increase my over-all HP through efficiency. This results in a slower spool times (larger turbo requires more heat/flow to spool, turbo header makes more flow but way less heat.) Now note that there is not necissarily a relation between oncoming air temperature and EGTs unless you factor in a/f ratio, timing advance/retard and spark plug temp (all the factors of cylinder temperature.) There IS; however, a direct relation between exhaust backpressure and oncoming air density. Pressure is going to spool it! So... I can detune my engine to 350hp and spray a 50hp shot from the bottomof 2nd all the way through 5th and not only be more reliable strip but also not have to worry about STREET reliability because I don't have to change sttings. Just throw back on street tires and go.
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