how much for a kinda "basic"machine with
xp media? or pro
1gb ram
atahalon 64x2 4200
dvd dl w/lscribe
case really doesnt matter
video card nohting crazy my gaming doesnt go past diablo, and im starting to use ps
pm it to me or what not thanks
no offense but they dont look all that special besides being built to a custom spec....or is that what you are marketing? if so then they look great.
My car may run 18s, but I can do your taxes in 10 seconds flat.
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Sorry almost anyone can go to www.newegg.com now and have their friend put a system together for them. Plus I don't see how you can build a system these days that gets anywhere near 4500 dollars unless it comes with two 42" Plasmas or something. When it comes to building a custom system, your lucky to make 100 dollars in labor on top of what parts cost. The only area you can compete is maybe Alienware or Dell Systems over 1500 dollars. If your going to post pictures of yours systems online, at least do some decent cable management and make the internals look neat, Windex the fingerprints off the aluminum.
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To much clutter for my liking. I just build my own, and all my friends. You seem to have good components, but there are a lot of people that can build those machines.
Theres really nothing that custom about them. Just basic parts you can get from toms, newegg, tiger, or microcenter that YOU put together.
I know where your coming from, and I wish you the best of luck.
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Those computers are not finished, they were all in the process of being built thus the wiring was not tucked. I don't think there is a computer up there that was completely done. I can assure you that every computer I sold looked fine
. As for the finger prints, I polished that whole computer when it was packaged and shipped. It is going to be impossible to not get finger prints on a black piano finish case when you are working with it.
BlackEco wrote:Sorry almost anyone can go to www.newegg.com now and have their friend put a system together for them. Plus I don't see how you can build a system these days that gets anywhere near 4500 dollars unless it comes with two 42" Plasmas or something. When it comes to building a custom system, your lucky to make 100 dollars in labor on top of what parts cost. The only area you can compete is maybe Alienware or Dell Systems over 1500 dollars. If your going to post pictures of yours systems online, at least do some decent cable management and make the internals look neat, Windex the fingerprints off the aluminum.
Do you honestly not think someone could spend $4500 on a computer? Sure it's overboard, I don't even see the point in it. But $4,500 is easy to reach when your customer wants a $1,000 processor, $600 video cards, 4GB ram and other things. The only reason I posted that was to show that people trust and like my systems. Someone has to be pretty impressed with something I've done to send a $4k check to me when we have never even met. I'm not sure about the Alienware and Dell comment. You can build any computer cheaper and still make enough profit to make it worth while. Building those $700 TV ad Dells for $300 and pocketing some still saves the customer money.
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david norris wrote:Those computers are not finished, they were all in the process of being built thus the wiring was not tucked. I don't think there is a computer up there that was completely done. I can assure you that every computer I sold looked fine . As for the finger prints, I polished that whole computer when it was packaged and shipped. It is going to be impossible to not get finger prints on a black piano finish case when you are working with it.
BlackEco wrote:Sorry almost anyone can go to www.newegg.com now and have their friend put a system together for them. Plus I don't see how you can build a system these days that gets anywhere near 4500 dollars unless it comes with two 42" Plasmas or something. When it comes to building a custom system, your lucky to make 100 dollars in labor on top of what parts cost. The only area you can compete is maybe Alienware or Dell Systems over 1500 dollars. If your going to post pictures of yours systems online, at least do some decent cable management and make the internals look neat, Windex the fingerprints off the aluminum.
Do you honestly not think someone could spend $4500 on a computer? Sure it's overboard, I don't even see the point in it. But $4,500 is easy to reach when your customer wants a $1,000 processor, $600 video cards, 4GB ram and other things. The only reason I posted that was to show that people trust and like my systems. Someone has to be pretty impressed with something I've done to send a $4k check to me when we have never even met. I'm not sure about the Alienware and Dell comment. You can build any computer cheaper and still make enough profit to make it worth while. Building those $700 TV ad Dells for $300 and pocketing some still saves the customer money.
You can't build entry level PCs for much less than what Dell is selling them for. If you are putting together Dell quality system you are lucky if your cost is the same as what Dell is selling them at. When Dell gets huge volume discounts on software, and can assemble a system in under 10 minutes on a assembly line in Austin, there is no way Joe Schmoe can build one his Mom's basement for less, unless hes just doing for a friend to have fun. There are much larger margins on all their 1000+ dollar systems, and that is the only area left for competition. They have positioned themselves like this to kill off all the competition, and its worked.
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BlackEco wrote:You can't build entry level PCs for much less than what Dell is selling them for. If you are putting together Dell quality system you are lucky if your cost is the same as what Dell is selling them at.
Have you ever built a computer? I'm not sure about you, but I can most definitely get parts and have it put together for much less than a Dell. If not then why would I have any business at all? Whether you believe it or not, I have built many entry level computers for much less than you could get the same machine from Dell. Do the majority of people want thousand dollar computers? No, they are looking to spend $5-700 on a good computer. If it wasn't possible to do I wouldn't be building them weekly.
I didn't make this tread to start arguing over costs, labor, or degree of difficulty. I was gaging interest in these kind of computers. If they are not for you, then that is perfectly fine. Thanks for your opinion.
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david norris wrote:BlackEco wrote:You can't build entry level PCs for much less than what Dell is selling them for. If you are putting together Dell quality system you are lucky if your cost is the same as what Dell is selling them at.
Have you ever built a computer? I'm not sure about you, but I can most definitely get parts and have it put together for much less than a Dell. If not then why would I have any business at all? Whether you believe it or not, I have built many entry level computers for much less than you could get the same machine from Dell. Do the majority of people want thousand dollar computers? No, they are looking to spend $5-700 on a good computer. If it wasn't possible to do I wouldn't be building them weekly.
I didn't make this tread to start arguing over costs, labor, or degree of difficulty. I was gaging interest in these kind of computers. If they are not for you, then that is perfectly fine. Thanks for your opinion.
Yes actually I have built well over a 2000 systems since 1998 and I have watched the market change over the years and I know exactly what Im talking about. Iv'e only built a handful in the last few years and the reason is simple... Dell Im not doubting you can build a PC with equivalent specs to a entry level Dell system, but the quality of that system is going to be severely lacking.
The main reason you have customers is because many people are un-educated when it comes to purchasing a computer. Face it you are taking advanage of people who don't know better.
Its fair to charge for service, setting up someones computer, teaching them how to use it, on the other hand it is robbery to mark up a 400 dollar system several hundred dollars that is no where near the quality of a system which can be purchased from Dell.
I manage a computer store that does hundreds of thousands of dollars in business a year. I have 12 employees, 8 techs who where hired out of a student population of 5000 people, so I have the best and brightest people in the area working for me. Any one of them can tell you that when it comes down to bang for your buck on a quality system under 1000 dollars Dell cannot be beat, unless you are loading pirated copies of Windows XP on your systems.
Im sure without a doubt on high end systems you can give people a good value compared to all the other major competitors.
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There were a ton of assumptions in there. There is no need to sit here and argue about it though. I can tell you the people that I work with are not getting "ripped off." Regardless of what you think, they are getting their computers cheaper from me than they would somewhere else. If I had the time, or cared enough to do so I would show you exact price comparisons. But it's not worth it to me to sit here and do that. Best of luck with your business!
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I'm not going to flame or anything... I just want a computer for my car...
I need pcmcia slot for my aircard...
Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz processor
256 MB RAM
40 GB hard drive
CD-ROM drive
1.44 MB floppy drive
Integrated video
Integrated audio
Integrated Ethernet
Motherboard Expansion slots:
Two (2) PCI slots on a riser card
Two (2) DIMM sockets
Two (2) Type II PCMCIA slots
Front I/O ports:
Two (2) USB ports
One (1) 4-pin IEEE 1394 FireWire port
Line in
Mic in
Rear I/O ports:
One (1) DVI-D port
One (1) 15-pin VGA port
One (1) Parallel port
One (1) 9-pin Serial port
Two (2) USB ports
Two (2) PS/2 ports
One (1) IEEE 1394 FireWire port
get it for me for less and I will buy from you.. free shipping for any purchase over 99.99
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horsepower is how hard you hit the wall, Torque is how far you push the wall with you
It's not worth it to build that $190 refurbished one
, but you probably realized that when you posted. I have many better used computers that I would be happy to sell you. That computer also doesn't come with an operating system. If you would be interested in anything like that let me know. Otherwise good luck with your purchase!
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ok well how about this .. I need a video card that has an rca out that will allways be on.. all the cards i have came accross have an rca out but you have to enable it every time you restart..
horsepower is how hard you hit the wall, Torque is how far you push the wall with you
I'm not exactly sure what it is you are looking for. Could you be more specific? What do you mean by always on?
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Do you do anything other then PC hardware? I am starting a consulting business (a real company) that does about everything but PC hardware (too much work for me).
The only other services I offer are things such as repair work, networking, and web/graphic design. I do not do much programming because I don't have the time, but I do set up a lot of excel spreadsheets and other things like that (if you want to call that programming). I have designed complete "sets" of papers for many businesses (invoices, purchase orders, receipts).
Why don't you do the hardware work? Hardware to me is almost the quickest and easiest thing. If you need help on anything let me know and I would be glad to assist.
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I do hardware diag and repair, but I just cant make enough money on custom builds. Im a little OCD when it comes to building computers. I have built hundreds of custom computers (I worked at a local shop), so its not that I dont know how. I would just rather someone else take the time to build computers so I can focus on my training, my client base, and the actual work.
I pretty much stay away from excel forms, I just recomend/sell quickbooks to my clients. It does PO's, invoices, paychecks...etc and is a full accounting suit. Im working on finding an open source alternative at the moment.
Can you build servers? Normally I set a small business up with a dual P4 2.0Ghz xeon, 2GB memory, 1TB SATA raid 5 array (or raid 10 depending on their performance needs). Dual 1000/100/10 nics, and a 800+watt PS. The servers run windows 2000 SBS, exchange, active directory, and function as some type of antivirus server. That is the only type of computer I have built recently (besides my personal workstations). Can you give me a round about price for that? Please use an intel server board in your quote.
Im also working on a linux alternative. I would need about the same specs but leave off all software and drop the xeon for just regular P4's.
Also do you get good prices on P3 systems? I have a security package that needs P3 1GHz, 512MB ram, dual 1GB nics, 2GB or larger hd. I am getting a pretty good price on those now from a major business out of indianapolis.
Just e-mail me so we can save some j-body bandwidth.
right now I have a videocard that has a video out that is only on after you start the computer and change the settings to the video out instead of the vga out..
I need a card that I can set once and will stay to the viedo out or both the vga and video out.. I'm going to put a computer in my car and I need that...
horsepower is how hard you hit the wall, Torque is how far you push the wall with you
