I've been seeing alot of cars with the new Ohio plates but only on the back of the cars, not on the front. Did Ohio finally do away with the front license plate law?
I dont believe so but if they did Im going to go rip mine off.
Edit: Checked the ORC:
Ohio Revised Code 4503.21 wrote:No person who is the owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall fail to display in plain view on the front and rear of the motor vehicle the distinctive number and registration mark, including any county identification sticker and any validation sticker issued under sections 4503.19 and 4503.191 of the Revised Code,
Double Edit: The site I checked is recent as of April 6th so it may be possible that they have since then.
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just got new tags, they require both front and rear
I figured as much, just found it odd that all except one of the vehicles I've seen with the new Farm look plates only had a rear plate.
got a ticket last month for no plate 190 dollars
same thing for me as well. only seen the newer plates on the rear not one on the front yet. kinda wierd but thats ohio for you to make us have them on front.
Mine has been in the front window for 4 years now. No issues.
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WHITECAVY wrote:Mine has been in the front window for 4 years now. No issues.
When the car only get 50 miles per year put on it, you're not out long enough to get pulled over
The new plates look dumb, and i hope i never have to get them
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they will pull dave over for dwb before a front violation. however to the op the ohio front plate law is in effect and in your front window would be fine it states clearly visible from the front and rear of the vehicle
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I've had mine in the front window of my miata and drive it almost daily. No problems yet.
ThatGuy85 wrote:I've had mine in the front window of my miata and drive it almost daily. No problems yet.
I'm in the police academy now. I can tell you that in ohio, you have to have a front plate. HOWEVER. if you look carefully in the ORC that someone posted, it doesn't say it HAS to be mounted on the front bumper, it just says it has to be visible from the front of the vehicle. So if you're like me and hate the look of a front plate on your bumper, take it off and stick it in the windshield like ^. It's perfectly legal.
kyle wrote:ThatGuy85 wrote:I've had mine in the front window of my miata and drive it almost daily. No problems yet.
I'm in the police academy now. I can tell you that in ohio, you have to have a front plate. HOWEVER. if you look carefully in the ORC that someone posted, it doesn't say it HAS to be mounted on the front bumper, it just says it has to be visible from the front of the vehicle. So if you're like me and hate the look of a front plate on your bumper, take it off and stick it in the windshield like ^. It's perfectly legal.
As long as is visible. Not every windshield makes the plate completely visible. All just depends how picky the cop wants to be I guess.
If you don't want any issues at all, then mount it to your passenger sunvisor and leave it down all the time. A lot of the trans am guys around my area do that cause of how slanted the windshield is in those cars.
kyle wrote:ThatGuy85 wrote:I've had mine in the front window of my miata and drive it almost daily. No problems yet.
I'm in the police academy now. I can tell you that in ohio, you have to have a front plate. HOWEVER. if you look carefully in the ORC that someone posted, it doesn't say it HAS to be mounted on the front bumper, it just says it has to be visible from the front of the vehicle. So if you're like me and hate the look of a front plate on your bumper, take it off and stick it in the windshield like ^. It's perfectly legal.
The law says it has to be clearly visible without any obstructions. Usually sticking it in the windshield will cover the county sticker, which I believe would count and an obstruction. However, it's not really up to the cop. It's up to the courthouse, but you'll have to give a good enough reason describing why it's ok to be in the windshield and prove the cop wrong when he says it isn't.
I still stick with my last post on this issue. 190 for no front plate is insane. Good thing when I got banged for it I wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
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It is not legal to put it in the front window. Whoever posted the ORC didn't post all of it. I've been pulled over numerous times for no front plate. Mine was mounted to the air dam underneath the car. I had to fold the bottom 1.5" of the plae up and under, but it was mounted. The law states that it has to be mounted to the front of the vehicle and not swinging. Placing it in the front windshield is (1) not mounted and (2) not fixed to the front of the vehicle. The windshield is actually considered "mid-vehicle". Now back to mine being mounted the way I had it and me being pulled over. The law also states that ithas to be in plain view. To who's discretion is the plain view? Is it the person who wrote the law, the officer enforcing the law, or the person who owns the vehicle? That is where the law becomes vague enough to beat a ticket should it be mounted to the air dam like I had mine.
Here are a few things I found. Investigate them for yourselves if you like.
4503.21 Display of license plates and validation stickers or temporary license placard or windshield sticker.
(A) No person who is the owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall fail to display in plain view on the front and rear of the motor vehicle the distinctive number and registration mark, including any county identification sticker and any validation sticker issued under sections 4503.19 and 4503.191 of the Revised Code, furnished by the director of public safety, except that a manufacturer of motor vehicles or dealer therein, the holder of an in transit permit, and the owner or operator of a motorcycle, motorized bicycle, manufactured home, mobile home, trailer, or semitrailer shall display on the rear only. A motor vehicle that is issued two license plates shall display the validation sticker only on the rear license plate, except that a commercial tractor that does not receive an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the validation sticker on the front of the commercial tractor. An apportioned vehicle receiving an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the license plate only on the front of a commercial tractor and on the rear of all other vehicles. All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
No person to whom a temporary license placard or windshield sticker has been issued for the use of a motor vehicle under section 4503.182 of the Revised Code, and no operator of that motor vehicle, shall fail to display the temporary license placard in plain view from the rear of the vehicle either in the rear window or on an external rear surface of the motor vehicle, or fail to display the windshield sticker in plain view on the rear window of the motor vehicle. No temporary license placard or windshield sticker shall be covered by any material that obstructs its visibility.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.
Effective Date: 01-01-2004
Some people have brain storms, others light drizzles. And then there are those that have droughts.
Ill just ask my neighbor next time I see him. Hes an actual police officer. Id assume hed know the law.
Jeremey Csatlos wrote:It is not legal to put it in the front window. Whoever posted the ORC didn't post all of it. I've been pulled over numerous times for no front plate. Mine was mounted to the air dam underneath the car. I had to fold the bottom 1.5" of the plae up and under, but it was mounted. The law states that it has to be mounted to the front of the vehicle and not swinging. Placing it in the front windshield is (1) not mounted and (2) not fixed to the front of the vehicle. The windshield is actually considered "mid-vehicle". Now back to mine being mounted the way I had it and me being pulled over. The law also states that ithas to be in plain view. To who's discretion is the plain view? Is it the person who wrote the law, the officer enforcing the law, or the person who owns the vehicle? That is where the law becomes vague enough to beat a ticket should it be mounted to the air dam like I had mine.
Here are a few things I found. Investigate them for yourselves if you like.
4503.21 Display of license plates and validation stickers or temporary license placard or windshield sticker.
(A) No person who is the owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall fail to display in plain view on the front and rear of the motor vehicle the distinctive number and registration mark, including any county identification sticker and any validation sticker issued under sections 4503.19 and 4503.191 of the Revised Code, furnished by the director of public safety, except that a manufacturer of motor vehicles or dealer therein, the holder of an in transit permit, and the owner or operator of a motorcycle, motorized bicycle, manufactured home, mobile home, trailer, or semitrailer shall display on the rear only. A motor vehicle that is issued two license plates shall display the validation sticker only on the rear license plate, except that a commercial tractor that does not receive an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the validation sticker on the front of the commercial tractor. An apportioned vehicle receiving an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the license plate only on the front of a commercial tractor and on the rear of all other vehicles. All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
No person to whom a temporary license placard or windshield sticker has been issued for the use of a motor vehicle under section 4503.182 of the Revised Code, and no operator of that motor vehicle, shall fail to display the temporary license placard in plain view from the rear of the vehicle either in the rear window or on an external rear surface of the motor vehicle, or fail to display the windshield sticker in plain view on the rear window of the motor vehicle. No temporary license placard or windshield sticker shall be covered by any material that obstructs its visibility.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.
Effective Date: 01-01-2004
I know im new here and i really dont want to come off as an ass cause im not trying to be, but, nowhere in the orc that you posted of in the book does it say that it HAS to be mounted to the front most part of the vehicle or the bumper. it says must be in plain view with the county sticker visible and must be secured so it doesnt swing. When we had our 20-something hours of vehicle traffic laws, our instructor was a cleveland cop for 35 years and has been teaching that class for the past 20 years, he knows he laws. He told us that having the license plate in the windshield is perfectly legal on any car as long as the WHOLE plate is visible (watch the word play here that will get you out of a ticket) "visible from the front of the vehicle." it doesnt say you have to be able to see it driving by. heres where the cop is gonna get pissed, this is quoted straight from my instructor, "as long as the officer can stand at the front bumper and see all of the plate, its legal."
Quote:
All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
Sitting up in your windshield, it is not securely fastened. Generally it's slightly covered at the bottom of the windshield as well, which is obstructing its view.
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SHOoff wrote:Quote:
All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
Sitting up in your windshield, it is not securely fastened. Generally it's slightly covered at the bottom of the windshield as well, which is obstructing its view.
thats why i said a lot of the trans am guys mount it to their passenger sunvisor and just leave it down all the time. also, "and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility." clear glass does not obstruct visibility.
kyle wrote:SHOoff wrote:Quote:
All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
Sitting up in your windshield, it is not securely fastened. Generally it's slightly covered at the bottom of the windshield as well, which is obstructing its view.
thats why i said a lot of the trans am guys mount it to their passenger sunvisor and just leave it down all the time. also, "and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility." clear glass does not obstruct visibility.
Most glass on a car is not totally clear. Most of them you have the tinting at the top, and usually you have a little rim around the windshield that will partially cover the thing up.
I guess hanging from the top being below the AS1 line you're cool though. As long as it's not blocking the view of the driver.
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Because having my sunvisor down with a piece of metal strapped to it all the time looks so much better then just having it on the bumper.
