My lowering set up is for sale...
Tein S-Techs with KYB GR2's on the front, and monroe sensatracs on the rear..
Will sell complete setup with struts for 400$ and stock suspension
Or just the springs for 350$ with stock springs only
In stratford ontario
FYI: GR2's are not meant for lowering, nor are the Monroes. If you're buying this setup, you're best off getting just the springs and getting some more appropriate dampers for them.
Uhhh ok? Stop jacking my thread and ruining my post kthxbye!
Kevin's just trying to save some poor souls from bouncing around =)
Its all that guy seems to know how to do jack threads and leave negitives its bull @!#$ !! But it will never end on an open thread with every mister know it all !!! Good luck with sale .
Ron...
Your right it will never end, but neither the brainless idiots who try to sell crap they know nothing about...thanks for the heads up Kev, stuff I already knew but the thought is appreciated nonetheless.
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Ummm i had the GR-2's on my old cav for what 8 years? No problems with anything. I have them on the Fiero as well. No prob with bouncung around. Holds very well. I dont know about the menroe's but the KYB GR-2's are fine for lowered cars.
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I dont bounce around. So @!#$ off and let me sell my @!#$!
Wild Weasel wrote:FYI: GR2's are not meant for lowering, nor are the Monroes. If you're buying this setup, you're best off getting just the springs and getting some more appropriate dampers for them.
Still fighting the good fight eh?
I think the reason why people say they are fine is because they don't have anything proper to compare it to. If you guys actually had a car with proper suspension then you'd realize that Wild Weasel is just trying to look out for the members and try and prevent someone from wasting their money on garbage.
Ok, well what im saying is.. it's a good starter suspension.. it's the first one i've had, and for someone who doesnt know what being lowered is like... it's pretty good for starting.. holy @!#$
Whats the point of a "starter suspension?"
Why not save some extra pennies and buy the right stuff the first time instead of doing it twice?
The s-tech springs are $229 at my local shop anyway. lol
Just because it's someone's first suspension upgrade doesn't mean they have to get a crap one, if anything doing it right the first time and taking advice from people like Wild Weasel and deflux is what starters SHOULD be doing. I'm so glad I didn't listen to the stupid people that kept saying lowering springs with OEM replacement struts/OEM struts is fine.
And Ron C how would you feel if your first suspension set up was crap? You wouldn't know any better at the time, but eventually you'll get a proper setup and look back and feel stupid. It's why this forum exists; to save starters from making dumb mistakes like buying an improper suspension setup. Also, what Kevin said is not "bull @!#$" because he is right. Compare those springs on the struts being sold here with the same springs on konis/d-specs and the difference would be obvious.
time spent reading this thread: 3 min
money saved for a newb who would have bought a crap suspension: $400
Weasel once gain exposing a crappy seller's attitude: Priceless
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I have GR2's they're bouncy as @!#$, I am used to bouncy suspensions so it doesn't bother me much. Drives passengers nuts good thing I don't drive around with many lol In the same sense mine are at least 6 years old 3 with me and 3 with someone else. Next season brings an entire new suspension for me.
I have however ridden in a car lower than mine with brand new gr2's and it rides a hell of a lot better than mine, so in a sense if they're newer they're not as bad if someone wants a cheapish setup, but if you don't want a cheap setup keep lookin.
Not crappin on ur thread just adding personal experience, I'm honestly 50/50 on the struts for opinions.
I went from Koni reds and Sportlines to Koni Yellows and Ground Control coilovers, and this setup makes the old one feel like crap...so I really can't imagine how horrible ANY car with GR2s feels, not to mention how unsafe it is.
I had a previous passenger who had GR2s on his car make a remark about how much BETTER my setup felt, and that was with the reds/sportlines...that should clearly tell you something, only if you have a mind open enough to listen.
14.330 @ 96.37mph
I should just permaban everyone who's knocking me for providing valuable information.
Thanks for backing me up guys!
This forum isn't here for people to peddle garbage that they don't want anymore. If you're selling something people might not want but might not realize it, this forum isn't the place to try to keep that a secret.
If people read good advice and choose to ignore it, then I could care less, but one of my jobs here is to try to get that good advice out there.
If people think that all I do here is jack threads and post negative crap... well... I'm ok with that. The real members here know better.
If you want to sell something without repercussions, try eBay, Kijiji, or the even .org classifieds. Try it in a discussion thread however, and don't be surprised when something suddenly becomes open to discussion. The "if they don't ask, I won't tell" method for selling items doesn't fly very well when you have a community like this. When it does, we've all lost something valuable.
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i have GR2's on mine with Gold Line springs. does it bounce, yeah a bit. the spring rate is fairly high for a lowering spring and they are OEM replacement struts. i knew what i was getting myself into. i couldnt justify getting a really nice setup for a car that was destined for the scrap heap in 2 years or less.
some would ask why i even bothered to lower it. well, why not? the setup was inexpensive and i wanted to have fun. the car does handle much better than stock, but stock was a 10 year old 220,000 km suspension... would i buy GR2's again? yes. would i put them on a lowering application for a long term car? probably not.
1997 Cavalier Z24
Bomz Short Ram Intake
Vibrant Cat-Back
KYB GR2 Struts
Goldline 1.75" Springs
RK Sport Upper Insert
RK Sport Lower Dogbone
Custom Tune by Shane @
innovativetuning@rogers.com
15.647 @ 88.02 MPH
deflux wrote:Wild Weasel wrote:FYI: GR2's are not meant for lowering, nor are the Monroes. If you're buying this setup, you're best off getting just the springs and getting some more appropriate dampers for them.
I think the reason why people say they are fine is because they don't have anything proper to compare it to. If you guys actually had a car with proper suspension then you'd realize that Wild Weasel is just trying to look out for the members and try and prevent someone from wasting their money on garbage.
Well lets see they are putting it on a Cavalier/Sunfire. Right there they are already starting with garbage so going with a low end suspension will not matter
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Cavy95 wrote:deflux wrote:Wild Weasel wrote:FYI: GR2's are not meant for lowering, nor are the Monroes. If you're buying this setup, you're best off getting just the springs and getting some more appropriate dampers for them.
I think the reason why people say they are fine is because they don't have anything proper to compare it to. If you guys actually had a car with proper suspension then you'd realize that Wild Weasel is just trying to look out for the members and try and prevent someone from wasting their money on garbage.
Well lets see they are putting it on a Cavalier/Sunfire. Right there they are already starting with garbage so going with a low end suspension will not matter
Are you stupid? There's a reason why the tuner scene exists...because our cars start out as "garbage" but through hard work we can turn it into something nice. Maybe you should save up to get yourself a car that's not "garbage"? Because by then my cavalier will probably be able to wipe the floor with your non-"garbage" car. =)
Yi Liu wrote:Cavy95 wrote:deflux wrote:Wild Weasel wrote:FYI: GR2's are not meant for lowering, nor are the Monroes. If you're buying this setup, you're best off getting just the springs and getting some more appropriate dampers for them.
I think the reason why people say they are fine is because they don't have anything proper to compare it to. If you guys actually had a car with proper suspension then you'd realize that Wild Weasel is just trying to look out for the members and try and prevent someone from wasting their money on garbage.
Well lets see they are putting it on a Cavalier/Sunfire. Right there they are already starting with garbage so going with a low end suspension will not matter
Are you stupid? There's a reason why the tuner scene exists...because our cars start out as "garbage" but through hard work we can turn it into something nice. Maybe you should save up to get yourself a car that's not "garbage"? Because by then my cavalier will probably be able to wipe the floor with your non-"garbage" car. =)
I do have a car that is not "Garbage" I also have a Z24 that is "garbage" You dont know me nor my cars so settle down. All i was stating was that some who prob spent $2000 on there car is not going to spend another 1000 on lowereing springs/coilovers. I think threads like this exist for people like that. In all honesty i dont know why someone would buy suspension parts used unless they are on a budget.
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this is a joke, nuff said.
