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Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:54 AM

Hey guys i want to do the final touch on my interior and have a few questions that need to be answered.

1. i want a bar welded from one side of where the seatbeats bolt into to the other side of where they are bolted into. If n e one knows where i can get this done please let me know asap.

2. I am doing the above so that i can put racing harnesses in. Can someone point me in the right direction to afforable seats (blue/black) and harnesses (blue)

Thanks guys for your time

D ROCK

Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:26 AM
Are you putting in a roll cage as well? Note that racing harnesses can do more harm than good in a rollover if you don't have a proper cage in place.





Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:27 AM
No not a rool cage just a bar across
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:29 AM

I think the harness should be good with that bar because its gonna be secured to where the stock seat belts are secured to
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:57 PM
^ but....if you mount it directly across where the stock seat belts bolt up to that will cause more damage to you and put you into alot of risk if your even in a crash...your seat belts will be angled at 100+ degrees...this is a huge NO NO...if anything you'd want a bar that is directly behind you at 90 degress...or a roll cage...a roll cage would be the best bet however!





Re: Welding a bar!!!
Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:02 AM
think he's just looking for something like this

Re: Welding a bar!!!
Thursday, February 24, 2005 1:19 AM
big no-no without a cage, it can be done but not only does it not look all that great the function isnt their either. they make a special seat with floor mount harness's abut i do not reccomentd those either.


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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:22 AM
Thats exactly what i want is in that picture except for a 2 door and not a 4 door

If n e one knows where to get that done, can u let me know asap please
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:00 AM
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:44 AM
listening....


Im looking for the same thing... why cant someone just make a decent priced harness bar...


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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:22 PM
Should have a roll cage as well if you want to use the racing harness. The normal seat belts are designed to move you to the middle of the car in an accident (if you roll the roof would collapse)..a racing harness will hold you in the one spot and in the event of a roll over you would be hurt more




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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:31 AM
Exactly. Harnesses are dangerous without a roll cage. You DO NOT want to be held upright in position in the event of a rollover or you're going to get your neck snapped.






Re: Welding a bar!!!
Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:35 AM
Ricers.






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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:44 AM
i had my racin seats sittin in my garage since last summer still in plastic to this day ..... never got off my lazy ass to make mountin brackets =P

well after readin all these posts..... yah i got a pair of BRAND NEW never used 4 point harnesses for sale now...

bought them with the seats their made by Ractive and are solid black in colour....

make an offer if your lookin for some
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:47 PM
I can custom make a bar that if you guys want to remove it later on, you will be able to, and paint it any color

JP

PS It wil be better then welding it to your body
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Monday, March 14, 2005 1:24 PM
Email me JP
d_monette_@hotmail.com
Re: Welding a bar!!!
Monday, March 14, 2005 5:01 PM
John Salgueiro wrote:I can custom make a bar that if you guys want to remove it later on, you will be able to, and paint it any color

JP

PS It wil be better then welding it to your body


JP, perhaps you didn't read what these gentlemen said... not only is it stupid that you don't have a proper full cage with the bar at the right height, but now you want to sell a bar that isn't even WELDED to the chassis? That's 3000x as unsafe!

I don't know where a lot of people get the idea that safety is something to throw to the wind in order to look cool, but it's the most moronic thing you can do. Hey, why even bolt them down? Just tie yourself to the seat with a few shoelaces, take out the airbags, unhook the brake booster and the steering rack, and go for a nice drive at 180 km/h down the 401.

At least, for 3 seconds in your little world, you looked cool.

-Chris-



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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Monday, March 14, 2005 5:13 PM
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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:21 PM
the people offering to install it arent to bright either, if the person gets injured, the installer is liable, no matter how good of a disclaimer they have............AND not to many people know how to properly install harnesses, full cage is a must as stated by other people, but the shoulder harness must be mounted level with you're shoulders or a maximum of 4" below you're shoulder line, or MAJOR back injuries can occure in a collision, and the lap belts must be mounted at a 45 degree angle pulling across the hips or more MAJOR injuries will occure, lots of people think they look "cool" but i build race cars, and drive race cars where they have to be installed properly and i have heard about/seen what an improperly mounted harness system can do




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Re: Welding a bar!!!
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:52 PM
Roll cage in your car = insurance dropping you instantly... (in ontario)
Welded racing buckles harness bar = very unsafe without proper angles, and attachements, as well as a roll cage. IF your car is street legal, no roll cage or you have no insurance... IF YOU DON'T RACE ON THE TRACK EVERY WEEKEND.. YOUR A @!#$ MORON FOR WANTING A ROLL CAGE. Street cars DO NOT need a roll cage. Most of the time if you get in a accident, it will take longer for them to get you out, making your chances of surviving in a severe crash, less. Is a roll cage really worth loosing your life for? Doubtfull. Also factor in that driving around with a roll cage and harness just draws more attention to the police, getting you pulled over more often and hassled more often. And if the cops are smart enough, they will impound your car on the spot, and contact your insurance company. Why bother.

If you don't race your car, you literally look like a tool, more so then normal, if you put a harness and cage, or one or the other in your car. When people ask you if you race your car, do you feel like getting laughed at EVERY time you say you don't race you spent all that money (cage and harness good ones, total cost around $800-1000) for nothing... Yep.. they are all goin to laugh at you.



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