i was wondering if its worth it to put the 2.0 turbo from a cobalt into a cavalier? also would i be able to use the cavy trany or get the cobalt trany?
just the turbo or the entire engine?
if you're talking about the entire engine good luck with that.
either way. whatever works the best
im tryin to see what i need to switch an auto trany to an manual. i know theres alot of work but i still wanna do it
shawn layou wrote:i was wondering if its worth it to put the 2.0 turbo from a cobalt into a cavalier? also would i be able to use the cavy trany or get the cobalt trany?
If you want to go that route, the 2.0 in the cobalt design came from a Sleeved 2.2 Eco which comes down too a 2.0 wich is great on a turbo, mod the engine get max machine work, and a 05 2.2 will push 750 on a turbo. Can get a pre fabbed kit from turbo-kits.com
Vincent Woodward wrote:shawn layou wrote:i was wondering if its worth it to put the 2.0 turbo from a cobalt into a cavalier? also would i be able to use the cavy trany or get the cobalt trany?
If you want to go that route, the 2.0 in the cobalt design came from a Sleeved 2.2 Eco which comes down too a 2.0 wich is great on a turbo, mod the engine get max machine work, and a 05 2.2 will push 750 on a turbo. Can get a pre fabbed kit from turbo-kits.com
^ NOW THIS GUY KNOWS HIS @!#$!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DaFlyinSkwirl (Pj) v2.0 wrote:Vincent Woodward wrote:shawn layou wrote:i was wondering if its worth it to put the 2.0 turbo from a cobalt into a cavalier? also would i be able to use the cavy trany or get the cobalt trany?
If you want to go that route, the 2.0 in the cobalt design came from a Sleeved 2.2 Eco which comes down too a 2.0 wich is great on a turbo, mod the engine get max machine work, and a 05 2.2 will push 750 on a turbo. Can get a pre fabbed kit from turbo-kits.com
what.
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are you talking about?
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DaFlyinSkwirl (Pj) v2.0 wrote:Vincent Woodward wrote:shawn layou wrote:i was wondering if its worth it to put the 2.0 turbo from a cobalt into a cavalier? also would i be able to use the cavy trany or get the cobalt trany?
If you want to go that route, the 2.0 in the cobalt design came from a Sleeved 2.2 Eco which comes down too a 2.0 wich is great on a turbo, mod the engine get max machine work, and a 05 2.2 will push 750 on a turbo. Can get a pre fabbed kit from turbo-kits.com
what.
the.
F
are you talking about?
in return... do I need to say it slower? Call GM Performance and ask them. an '05 2.2 eco with all their magic will dor 750HP on a stage 3 turbo blah blah blah. The designed that motor in reaction too the Nissan Skyline and its pretty lil marvel of engineering that would push 1500 wo NOS and take it. The Big 3 got pissed that this little jap 4 cylinder was killing all their HO V8's.
Vincent Woodward wrote:DaFlyinSkwirl (Pj) v2.0 wrote:Vincent Woodward wrote:shawn layou wrote:i was wondering if its worth it to put the 2.0 turbo from a cobalt into a cavalier? also would i be able to use the cavy trany or get the cobalt trany?
If you want to go that route, the 2.0 in the cobalt design came from a Sleeved 2.2 Eco which comes down too a 2.0 wich is great on a turbo, mod the engine get max machine work, and a 05 2.2 will push 750 on a turbo. Can get a pre fabbed kit from turbo-kits.com
what.
the.
F
are you talking about?
in return... do I need to say it slower? Call GM Performance and ask them. an '05 2.2 eco with all their magic will dor 750HP on a stage 3 turbo blah blah blah. The designed that motor in reaction too the Nissan Skyline and its pretty lil marvel of engineering that would push 1500 wo NOS and take it. The Big 3 got pissed that this little jap 4 cylinder was killing all their HO V8's.
Where to start.....
Please post a picture of a Stage 3 turbo. It that like a GT35? HX40? 6262? Sleeving a L61 block doesnt destroke it and yes we know all about GM's 1000+hp ecotec drag cars.
The Nissan Skyline doesnt have a 4-cylinder.... Why would GM design an economy 4 cylinder engine for their throw away economy cars with the idea that it will compete with a Japanese sports car?
You are either delusional or very gullible.
its an old concept. time for something new to take the reigns. - Z yaaaa
No the sleeving doesnt mess with the stroke, but it can bring down the displacement but up the compression. Has anyone done a stroke kit for one?
I could give you a picture of ANY turbo and tell you its a stage 3. Stage 1 - lightly modified engine, Stage 2 - More aggressive engine setups, incl fuel management and internals, Stage 3 Heavy modifications including custom rotating assemblies, including Custom Internals on a Turbo.
Did some looking and my mistake on the R33 I only knew it as a 2.6? False assumption on the Cylinders. But those were paraphrased words from A GM rep at the 04-05? SEMA show. At that time they were actually looking into producing Catalogs for the dealerships of everything they could source and imagine on all their models. Then when someone went to buy a car they could show up and pickup there showroom floor tuner car, or pimped cadillac too a jacked up 3500. That idea obvioiusly never launched.
Yes the cavalier is a low budget car, and what better way to develope an engine?? put them in cars your going to sell a gross amount of and people arent going to expect highest quality and get the most amount of feed back? Thats how the 2.2 developed so fast and was changing every few years. The volume of intel they were getting on the engines. The Cavalier wasnt made to compete the Engine was. That 1000HP Eco can be a daily driver just as easily and take the punishment of it, which is whats so big about the Skyline series.
This thread gets better and better every single post............
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So what "stage" is my future build? Stock LE5 bottom, built L61 head, Harrop S/C? lol. No one except idiots(or people selling stuff to them) measure mods in "stages". You are a complete idiot. Im not even sure about where to start on your ill conceived "stroking" facts. Just back to your corner and let the big boys talk.
BTW, the Ecotec isnt an American designed engine.....
its an old concept. time for something new to take the reigns. - Z yaaaa
Vincent Woodward wrote:No the sleeving doesnt mess with the stroke, but it can bring down the displacement but up the compression. Has anyone done a stroke kit for one?
No. De-boring or de-stroking and leaving the head volume the same reduces static compression.
I've talked to kids with better understanding of basic geometry than you.
I have no signiture
*sigh*
Did I ever directly say the 2.2 eco was an "american designed/made" engine? NO just widely used in NA cars.
Yes part staging has gone the way of the dinosaur and is rarely seen anymore, usually only seen in regards to Turbocharger Kits, and Fuel System upgrades.
http://www.turbo-kits.com/Parts/Part/Hahn_RaceCraft_Turbo_Kit_for_98-02_Chevy_Cavalier_2.2L_LN2_OHV/ Stage 2 Turbo Kits, Best give them a call and let them know this is a horrible affront to the industry standard, im sure they will appreciate it.
And apologize for my bad grammer typo, It should of read but it can bring down the displacement but
you can up the compression. A naturally aspirated engine, no the compression will not rise as only what is drawn in is compressed. By rights I should have said Cylinder PSI will rise. This is why you are supposed to lower compression on a superchargered engine.
Anyhow I think im done pissing on shoes in this forum, as a full week and my original question posted has yet to be answered.
Vincent Woodward wrote:*sigh*
Did I ever directly say the 2.2 eco was an "american designed/made" engine? NO just widely used in NA cars.
Yes part staging has gone the way of the dinosaur and is rarely seen anymore, usually only seen in regards to Turbocharger Kits, and Fuel System upgrades.
http://www.turbo-kits.com/Parts/Part/Hahn_RaceCraft_Turbo_Kit_for_98-02_Chevy_Cavalier_2.2L_LN2_OHV/ Stage 2 Turbo Kits, Best give them a call and let them know this is a horrible affront to the industry standard, im sure they will appreciate it.
Hahn is active on this site. There's no calling up required. Calling something a "Stage X" has no real meaning except in relation to other offerings from a given company. Using that terminology to describe a 600+hp 4 cylinder is simply retarded. Manifold designs, internals and Turbo selection are critical at those power levels...and the only thing a "stage"
might get you is the turbo.
Vincent Woodward wrote:And apologize for my bad grammer typo, It should of read but it can bring down the displacement but you can up the compression. A naturally aspirated engine, no the compression will not rise as only what is drawn in is compressed. By rights I should have said Cylinder PSI will rise. This is why you are supposed to lower compression on a superchargered engine.
Anyhow I think im done pissing on shoes in this forum, as a full week and my original question posted has yet to be answered.
I hate to keep feeding hungry trolls, but without a google search, do you have any clue what compression ratio is? Like I said, if you reduce displacement and keep head volume the same, static compression decreases (i.e. IT CHANGES). The reason you decrease static compression on a forced induction engine is to have a manageable cylinder pressure for the type of fuel being used. That is, cylinder PSI will be higher on the 2.2L with higher static compression, and consequently, it generates higher VE/torque. The problem is managing knock for a given fuel, and therefore, common practice is to reduce static compression. Any more misinformation you would like to spread?
Take your trolling to the likes of Honda-tech.com and I guarantee you'll be torn at least 5 new ass-holes.
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i like how the link he provided is for an ln2 turbo kit and not even an eco, that's winning lol
"What you just said, is the most insanley idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having to listen to it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul."
i think this guy is rambling on trying to convince himself that hes not an idiot but making himself appear stupider,
little does he know without htis STAGE 3 stick on each side of the car the hp to weigh bais will be fawked and endup being slower then a 84 cavalier hatch
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