I was going to use a saab intake mani off the car i ripped my turbo kit off and the throttle body bolt pattern doesn't line up is that because the car was air injection?? it was a 03 saab 9-3 linear. never seen a post stating this and every post i came across said pretty much direct swap and i checked it after media blasting before powder coating and totally different, any thoughts??

thanks
jason

there is at least one hole you have to drill for our throttle body to fit.

are you sure you got the right intake manifold?





one hole is drilled for the IAC valve i believe, the other was drilled for the throttle body bolt. it was pre-modded when I bought it off another member.

Gonna check the mani I against ur pics and will report back thx

checkin on email notification so I don't forget about this thread.

sorry pj that it took me so long.



ya mine looks exactly like that questions for ya:

1. whats that large hole for where the throttle body mounts? looks like u drilled it?

2. i see you tapped the saab map hole for a npt barb, so where does the stock map sensor go?

3. i see you have to drill 1 hole because not all of the stock eco tb bolts bolts up thats the hole next to the big one you drilled?

also how did you interface the brake booster line into this manifold??

thanks for the help buddy

jason

jason norwood wrote:sorry pj that it took me so long.
ya mine looks exactly like that questions for ya:

1. whats that large hole for where the throttle body mounts? looks like u drilled it?

that hole is for the idle air control valve to breathe thru. its mounted on the throttlebody, but is isolated in its own tiny section.
basically a controlled air leak, that hole NEEDS to be there for the car to idle properly.

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2. i see you tapped the saab map hole for a npt barb, so where does the stock map sensor go?

if you look in the picture, the MAP sensor is actually right above the throttle body to the left. what I did was used a small piece of rubber hose, clamped one side to the nipple on the manifold and clamped the otherside around the MAP sensor connection (lightly, but enough so it wouldn't leak) since the sensor is plastic.

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3. i see you have to drill 1 hole because not all of the stock eco tb bolts bolts up thats the hole next to the big one you drilled?

yup, thats what it is for.

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also how did you interface the brake booster line into this manifold??

thanks for the help buddy

jason

there's a big nipple on the bottom of the manifold (visible in my first picture) i'm pretty sure I used that for the booster.
there were a few nipples I ended up not using and just capped them off.

remember, I didn't modify this manifold. I bought it off another member who had already done all these things. There was one more modification I did to it.. I drilled a hole in the backside of the intake manifold (on the mating flange) right above the PCV hole inbetween runners #2 and #3. I did this to get the PCV system to work properly.

I RTV'd the manifold onto the head (really really stupid). Use an LSJ intake manifold gasket and it should seal around that section, and you will get proper PCV function.

cool will do.

just want to make sure its all done right because i am machining the holes etc.... and powdercoating



thanks pj

What iat sensor did u use in the charge pipe? Open or closed element? Also are u turbo d and got a part number for it?

i was not turbo.

i am going turbo now, but no longer using the saab manifold because I didn't like its flow characteristics.

you want an open element IAT for charge pipes.

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/gm-open-element-iat-sensor-with-connector-p-116.html

you can either order that one or there is another one on that website comes with a pigtail instead.

you're also going to want a 3/8 NPT weld on fitting for it... either mild steel, stainless steel, or aluminum depending on whatever your charge pipes will be made out of.

Seems like I had a different open element I found here on this site that I used with my megasquirt. Lemmie know if u can find it thx.

thats the exact place i ordered mine from, i ordered mine with pigtail but cant remember if i used the pigtail or not. but thats where i got mine.

Pj how were u able to measure the flow charactersitics?

It's kind of off topic, but you said you got your turbo from a 9-3 Linear? You should try and find an Aero, or 2.0T (Capital T). These models had 210 horsepower and a larger turbo compared to the 175 horsepower Linears with a smaller turbo..

knew that but have talked to many people who have had both the Garrett and mitsu and they said they could not tell the difference.