Yeah a i wanna do something simple to my car so i dont get smoked all of the time i thinking of the bottle but im really dont know n e thing bout this engine. its completely stock with 100734 miles
Provide goals. Also, try the noob forum next tme.
fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Heres a start, just the basic "bolts ons" you should have.
1. Get a cold air intake (any intake, ebay, AEM, home made)
2. Header & complete exhaust system
3. Struts and Spings (lower your car)
4. Front and rear strut bars
5. Sway bars front and rear
6. Control arm bushing and end link bushings
7. Engine mounts and Trans mount (s)
There is nothing "simple" you can do to make your car perform better. Several simple things combined will make your car perform better.
goal is to at least run mid 14s which sounds reasonable. I would like to spray a 50 to 75 shot to keep a safe daily, i know the basic bolt-ons apply. And i would like to know if there are some combinations to get the extra power out of the motor,
14's on a 2.2 is more work than you know.
Especially a 3 spd.
Jonnattan Morales wrote:goal is to at least run mid 14s which sounds reasonable. I would like to spray a 50 to 75 shot to keep a safe daily, i know the basic bolt-ons apply. And i would like to know if there are some combinations to get the extra power out of the motor,
For mid-14's on a 97 3spd, I'd stay away from the bottle. For a 3-second 1/4-mile decrease, you'd probably be looking at around a 75 shot. The 97 pistons aren't very forgiving if you have fueling issues while spraying, or if your N2O setup doesn't include timing retard. Turbo would be safer for sure, although possibly more expensive depending on your skill level.
Now, if you swapped to a 5-spd, you'd only require maybe a 50-shot and some basic bolt-ons.
fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Jonnattan Morales wrote:goal is to at least run mid 14s which sounds reasonable. I would like to spray a 50 to 75 shot to keep a safe daily, i know the basic bolt-ons apply. And i would like to know if there are some combinations to get the extra power out of the motor,
Im not running spray or boost yet but im running with a lot more then just bolt on mods and my best time with my OHV is 15.36 so maybe with a lot of work and some spray high 14's arent impossible
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OHV notec wrote:Jonnattan Morales wrote:goal is to at least run mid 14s which sounds reasonable. I would like to spray a 50 to 75 shot to keep a safe daily, i know the basic bolt-ons apply. And i would like to know if there are some combinations to get the extra power out of the motor,
For mid-14's on a 97 3spd, I'd stay away from the bottle. For a 3-second 1/4-mile decrease, you'd probably be looking at around a 75 shot. The 97 pistons aren't very forgiving if you have fueling issues while spraying, or if your N2O setup doesn't include timing retard. Turbo would be safer for sure, although possibly more expensive depending on your skill level.
Now, if you swapped to a 5-spd, you'd only require maybe a 50-shot and some basic bolt-ons.
y go with a 50 shot when a 75 is just a nozzle away? and an msd retard box to retard the timing is'nt exactly going to break the bank.
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If you want something I'll help you out, I'm done trying to build mine
blucavvy wrote:OHV notec wrote:Jonnattan Morales wrote:goal is to at least run mid 14s which sounds reasonable. I would like to spray a 50 to 75 shot to keep a safe daily, i know the basic bolt-ons apply. And i would like to know if there are some combinations to get the extra power out of the motor,
For mid-14's on a 97 3spd, I'd stay away from the bottle. For a 3-second 1/4-mile decrease, you'd probably be looking at around a 75 shot. The 97 pistons aren't very forgiving if you have fueling issues while spraying, or if your N2O setup doesn't include timing retard. Turbo would be safer for sure, although possibly more expensive depending on your skill level.
Now, if you swapped to a 5-spd, you'd only require maybe a 50-shot and some basic bolt-ons.
y go with a 50 shot when a 75 is just a nozzle away? and an msd retard box to retard the timing is'nt exactly going to break the bank.
Like I said, the 97 pistons aren't very forgiving. Should something happen on a 50-shot, there's a decent chance they'll survive, but if fuel cuts on a 75, chances aren't nearly as good.
This is based off of my experiences with the fuel system farking up on my original turbo setup.
fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
blucavvy wrote:OHV notec wrote:Jonnattan Morales wrote:goal is to at least run mid 14s which sounds reasonable. I would like to spray a 50 to 75 shot to keep a safe daily, i know the basic bolt-ons apply. And i would like to know if there are some combinations to get the extra power out of the motor,
For mid-14's on a 97 3spd, I'd stay away from the bottle. For a 3-second 1/4-mile decrease, you'd probably be looking at around a 75 shot. The 97 pistons aren't very forgiving if you have fueling issues while spraying, or if your N2O setup doesn't include timing retard. Turbo would be safer for sure, although possibly more expensive depending on your skill level.
Now, if you swapped to a 5-spd, you'd only require maybe a 50-shot and some basic bolt-ons.
y go with a 50 shot when a 75 is just a nozzle away? and an msd retard box to retard the timing is'nt exactly going to break the bank.
Because what breaks an engine is not solely the
TOTAL power level, its also how fast and how low in the rpm range the power comes in. Nitrous brings on a lot of torque very quickly, which is what breaks parts. Similarly, oversized superchargers or small, maxxed out turbos can do the same thing.
As an example, its very common over in Volkswagen 1.8T-Land to see cars breaking rods at only 250 hp with a K04-020 turbo (which is barely a step up from a stock K03). Meanwhile, there are literally scores of 350-400hp stock bottom-end 1.8T's that survive forever on larger, more laggy turbos. This is because the torque spike generated in the low RPM's by the smaller turbo's instant response is too rapid a change for the rods and pistons to cope with.
I'm not saying that with proper precautions, a nitrous setup couldn't do what this guy wants safely, but once you start tacking on additions like RPM window-switches, double-solenoids (wiring fuel and nitrous solenoids in pairs in series in case one fails and sticks open), ignition-retard boxes, etc.... Well, by that point you've almost matched a decent homebrew turbo setup in price AND you still have to worry about paying for bottle refills as well as new laws regarding nitrous storage and use (I know around here if you are caught with a nitrous system with even a partially filled bottle without having proper documentation you are in for some serious crap nowadays).
Regardless, to the original poster, no offense bro, this is said with much love and I'm only trying to look out for you when I say:
Don't trying doing anything just yet. Spend a lot of time reading and searching for posts you find interesting. If you can't find an answer you're looking for, ask more questions but be specific. Its apparent from the questions that you are asking that you aren't ready for big power-adders yet, at least knowledge-wise.
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i dont know about tuning the 2.2l i would do engine swap and put a 2.4l twin, you get more performance and it aint that hard
3400 swap would be damn near instant 14's, if it don't just drop you right in there.
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