I am wondering about those too...
search are u will find tons of argments about this header, but..
i have one and my only problem was the gaskets are anoying as hell, its a good gain aver all tho. what i did to finall get a good seal on it was to get a sheet of mr. gasket ultra seal and make copies of the ones it comes with, then add a small amount of copper RTV gasket sealant. and it help if you have a TTR or RKsport lower mount, mine was tappin on the sub frame cuz it wasnt pulled back all the way before it got welded.
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some are decent some arent, you take your chances..
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dude do it the right way u get what u pay for dont get those or pacesetter go with dc sport.
I have tsudo header on my 2.4 and i am very happy with it.
my tsudo was crap. it needs some more work still (grinding inside collectors where pipes are welded, fixed a burn through, one flange is so warped it needs to be machined)
but all the work is well worth the saved money.
Listen F***ers. FASTERTHANAHONDA is a joke because I WORK FOR HONDA. I'll talk @!#$ about Fords to, that doesn't mean I can beat a 12 second mustang.
drinkingoctane wrote:my tsudo was crap. it needs some more work still (grinding inside collectors where pipes are welded, fixed a burn through, one flange is so warped it needs to be machined)
but all the work is well worth the saved money.
Did u buy the header new or used?
Adam barberio wrote:dude do it the right way u get what u pay for dont get those or pacesetter go with dc sport.
hahaha dc sports is @!#$in pathetic....put down ur ricer magazine
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delslo9 wrote:Adam barberio wrote:dude do it the right way u get what u pay for dont get those or pacesetter go with dc sport.
hahaha dc sports is @!#$in pathetic....put down ur ricer magazine
HAHAHAHHA
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the pacesetter header on my 2.4 is is a much nicer peice than DC headers i have seen. the welds on teh DC blow and if its not stainless, ur throwing ur money away.....i have a DC on my sol and it is a piece of garbage...... i wont be able to GIVE it away after i put on my ITR header
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Thanks for the input guys...i still dunno what i'ma go with.
rollie785 (Almir) wrote:drinkingoctane wrote:my tsudo was crap. it needs some more work still (grinding inside collectors where pipes are welded, fixed a burn through, one flange is so warped it needs to be machined)
but all the work is well worth the saved money.
Did u buy the header new or used?
new.
cavmania wrote:some are decent some arent, you take your chances..
I 100% agree. i made a post about my header when i got it and no one else had anything bad to say. except for gaskets not sealing to great.
i would recomend this header. too bad it wont be on before the season ends
Listen F***ers. FASTERTHANAHONDA is a joke because I WORK FOR HONDA. I'll talk @!#$ about Fords to, that doesn't mean I can beat a 12 second mustang.
I just got a ceramic coated 4-1 pacesetter so I'll let you know how I like it, the tseudo is 4-2-1 I think that the engine makes decent low end already so a 4-1 should give more mid to top end power gains possibly?
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I have the pacesetter 4-1 on mine and I like it. It was easy to install, seemed like it was good quality and the power gain was decent.
I have talked to several people who bought the Tsudo and they like it. The only reason I did not buy one is because it was not being made when I made my purchase and RK Sport's was way to much money.
i was looking for a tsudo headers to.. i had them on me neon and thought they were well worth the money... DC over priced....
well then if the dc header blow name some good 4-2-1 header systems.
there all the same
THIS SHOULD HELP YOU PICK!!!
heres my install and what is looks like after about a month
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Very good comparison, hmmm..... but the real thing I want to know since I just bought a used ceramic pacesetter, which one do you like better for power gains since you've had both now?
Also the primaries look larger on the Tseudo, would you say so? The headers port size is not an issue unless the head's ports are enlarged, the ports are very small if you've noticed, but I suppose if the pc's ports a bit small I can always hog them out a bit then polish them.
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well it all comes down to where you want the most in you powerband. for more low end to mid range and i think best for DD's go tsudo, for highs and racing go pacesetter.
tru, u could port out the primaries on the pacesetter but only so far, they are smaller and if you ported the head you could run into problems. I just dont like pacesetter for how there produts rusted to nothing on my and other neons, but havent heard many problems on the j's.
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Never had a problem with pacesetter's rusting out, but obviously if you buy the black painted one you have to have the brains to paint it with ceramic paint after you notice the black paint burns off.
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you can buy my weapon R 4-2-1 header
all stainless bolts too so it comes apart SUPER easy
pm me if your interested. its on my 04 eco now but is going to be replaced with a manifold since its better!
