I agree with you that they look freaking awesome, but dunno if i would get them though!
Is the green part of the butt of the plug the spark? I didn't know electricity was green when it runs through our atmosphere, I thought it was light blue/white. Aside from that, as stated on another thread, spark will only travel the shortest distance from + to -. Where as that pic shows the spark all over the center of the plug. I just don't get what these plug companies are thinking, it's not the plug design that helps the combustion and reliability, it's the power in the spark. More powerful spark = hotter bigger spark=burn of mixture on time. And spark energy can only be enhanced with better coils and partly with better wires.
Robert Freeman wrote: I just don't get what these plug companies are thinking, it's not the plug design that helps the combustion and reliability, it's the power in the spark. More powerful spark = hotter bigger spark=burn of mixture on time.
they think what most marketing heads think.....
what can we make today that will razzle and dazzle a crowd.
some green glowin "ish"....yea a few people will surely bite and buy on this... even if its just to say...my spark is green.
if you can see, that is not the spark in the first image. if you go to the technical page you'll see the one with the spark enabled:
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spark will only travel the shortest distance from + to -. Where as that pic shows the spark all over the center of the plug.
thats because the the plug supposedly utilizes a "field effect" similar to those "lightning spheres" that you touch and the lighting goes to your finger...i mean.. it sounds like a cool concept but again i dont think itll do anything..would be cool to buy ONE and hook it up to a plug wire and levae the plug uninstalled just to see if it fires like that....if not i guess you could get them for false advertizing haha ..anyone wanna try one????
wow..what a website..instead of making the plug look pretty they actually have video and graphs to prove their point! anyone wanna try a set??
Rob Durrett wrote:This one actually works...
http://www.pulstarplug.com/
or not. think about it, its the field collapsing in the coil that sends the voltage to the plugs, which then spark. if there's an added "charging" in the pulse plugs, its not going to time the same. not worth $25 + shipping.
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Where did you see anything about "added charging"?
Its the difference in conductivity of internal components.
http://www.pulstarplug.com/howtheywork.html
They didn't really explain the heat thing though.
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from what i read the try to explain that "normal" spark plugs build up charge (which is brief) before the spark can fire, which causes heat to build up in the ignition system which is lost power...these plugs supposedly dont do that..i havnt read enough to explain why not yet..but i like the video "evidence" of the wave front expanding
I'm not confirming nor denying the possibility that they work, just bringing up points. The biggest difference between the two suggested plugs in this thread is the website. For those who don't know economics, a company has to have atleast a decent profit to afford a website like that meaning that they are in some way successful. I wouldn't trust the first one because of that fact. If I had $100ish, I would gladly try the pulse plugs.
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i need to put new plugs in my convertible...and im in the market for plugs for my quad...i WAS looking at denso iridium ..but i would personally like to see something like this dynoed ..i just dynoed my car recently ..so if i get new plugs ill probably take it back for a couple runs and see if any differnce at all is made...im not expecting one but dyno charts are the only thing that will prove or disprove something like this...if i buy the plugs would anyone be willing to chip in on a dyno run??
Can't help you there - in college, nuff said. I actually have the Iridium plugs, can't say I've noticed a difference, but they look nice
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Ok here is the latest. As some of you know, Enerpulse shipped me a second set of plugs out and I installed them and they ran beautifully. This time I gapped them down to .026" just like Nathan suggested (he's one of the engineers out at Enerpulse). I did notice on cold start up the following morning that there seemed to be just a little bit of subdued puffing/popping (slight misfires). This is right after start up in the morning when it's cool out and the engine idles just under 2000 rpms. It wasn't anything bad at all, just figured it's because things are running rich right at first like usual. I always got a slight amount of that with the NGK's in but just a little more with the Pulstar's with this smaller gap.
Well I get to work and then when I went on lunch, mind you the car is cooled back down, I start it up and this time a CEL sets; however, the car warms up and runs like a champ. I have to reiterate the acceleration once the ECU adapts, is markedly more crisp and solid. I drove around figuring the CEL would go out after a few startup cycles and driving around for maybe 30 or 40 miles, but it doesn't. When I got home, I yanked the negative cable on the battery to reset the ECU. Reconnected it about an hour later and of course the CEL was off. Car ran fine, then the next morning, I started it up, no CEL. Drove to work, drove home later, no issues. Then later that evening I started it up and got another CEL. Keep in mind the car appeared to be running beautifully, the only anomaly was during cold start up. I hated to go through the work of yanking the things back out but having a CEL popping on perpetually will also aggravate me perpetually so I had a new set of NGK's on hand in case the Pulstar's didn't work out. I installed them so A) I could possibly rule out some other coincendental problem causing the CEL to come on, and B) compare the Pulstar's to a NEW set of NGK's and inspect the Pulstar's once I got them out.
Conclusion: The car ran great with the new NGK's, although I can't say it has quite the same edge to it that it did with the Pulstar's. That part I'll miss. No CEL's came on. Additionally, the Pulstar's had a fair amount of black carbon soot on them this time. I suspect that's from gapping them down because the first set that I ran at .030" didn't have that build up. I think maybe it was causing an extra rich issue at cold start and that was throwing the CEL. I never got that code read (I probably should have).
So anyway, Enerpulses customer service was top notch yet again, they are paying to have the second set shipped back and are refunding my $100. I was told that they are running into this problem from more than just a few individuals and it's because of the thickness of the insulator. The insulator can't be as thick on these plugs because of the room needed for the electronics inside the plug. As a result, this is limiting the gap that can be used on higher energy systems. They have a new insulator/electronics set up that is due out right after the first of the year and I have volunteered to try the re-designed plug. If they can get that issue taken care of, I think they will be great plugs. So the NGK's are back in and the car is running fine. I think Enerpulse has a great idea that simply needs to have a bug or two worked out! Any questions, feel free to shoot me a message!
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well its always nice to see a normal tuner trying something out for the greater good..even if it doesnt always work out...so the way i see it is he liked having the plugs..but they were causing too much trouble..looks like well have to wait a while and see if they improve on them any..ill keep an eye out for them in the meantime..i still like the idea they had
hard to beat the basic meat and potatoes with gimmicks
but theres always room for improvement.
I can't wait until they get all the issues worked out, I'll definitely be going for them then.
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As a result, this is limiting the gap that can be used on higher energy systems.
i dont think our spark systems really compare to a mazda's. towrds the top of the thread they mentioned having trouble finding ANY after market plugs that didnt have some sort of issue. if i hadnt just replaced my spark plugs 500 miles ago i would try them. but i WILL do it next summer when i start dyno tuning.
i understand the theory, the spark is bigger, the fireball starts sooner; seems like advancing your timing would have similar resuslts.
Listen F***ers. FASTERTHANAHONDA is a joke because I WORK FOR HONDA. I'll talk @!#$ about Fords to, that doesn't mean I can beat a 12 second mustang.
i dont think its really releasing sooner....the way i understood it BOTH types of plugs have to build up power before it can jump the gap...conventional plugs cus heat to build up in the ignition system as it builds which is wasted power...THESE plugs allow the power to build in the plug before it jumps the gam, that when it sparks it hits with more voltage that was USED to be lost to heat....di i get this right??
That sounds about right.
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