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Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:25 PM
Hey all...

I feel like a total newb asking this, but I cant seem to find ANYONE or any business that sells a 62MM throttle body. I know that RSM Racing sold them before, but they don't exist anymore, or they changed to another business name or something. I heard something about racetech selling them, but i cant find their website cuz im a donkey, lol.

If anyone has any suggestions or knows who sells them, please post up.

Thanks in advance.


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2002 Pontiac Sunfire GT - Supercharged


Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:49 PM
Well I found 2 after doing more research..

RSM is Z-Spec, they have a 62mm TB. Although after reading and hearing tons of horror stories about RSM, im a bit worried about this.

I also found Jbodyperformance.com has some throttle bodies but they are closed until after new years. Anyone use these ones? Anyone know any other places that sell TB's?


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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:05 PM
stay away form RSM/Z spec. you can go online to ebay, or get your stock one bored out.

i alos heard good and bad things about JBP



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:31 PM
I'll be selling custom made 67-62-62 TBs after the first of the year. Won't be a bad price either....thinking like $200-$250.



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, December 22, 2006 1:10 AM
Not sure how far MRZ is boring them out, but I know he does it as well (sorry Ryne)




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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, December 22, 2006 11:50 AM
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:I'll be selling custom made 67-62-62 TBs after the first of the year. Won't be a bad price either....thinking like $200-$250.


I'd be interested, lemme know.


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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, December 22, 2006 12:30 PM
as far as i know the RSM/Z-spec isnt acctually 62mm (in fact something like 60.89mm or something)

i know that Mastin Snead took a stock 2.4 TB to a local shop to him and had them bore one to an ACTUAL 62mm, but idk whatever became of that situation

go to ebay, a company called Reveco has stock bored TB...they're weird tho, they go like 68mm then butterfly at like 60, then plate portion is like 62mm or something like that-ive heard good things about these.
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:I'll be selling custom made 67-62-62 TBs after the first of the year. Won't be a bad price either....thinking like $200-$250.


oh god please tell me ur gonna make a BILLET one for the 2.4?!!?!? PLEASE!!!!! (why cant brian tell us where he got this "FDP" billet 65 mm?!!?!) lmao


SpeedRacerZ wrote:Not sure how far MRZ is boring them out, but I know he does it as well (sorry Ryne)


there website is a bit vauge (sp??) but they claim to be able to go to 62mm and they polish the hell out of it




Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, December 22, 2006 2:20 PM
I won't be making billet anything. I will just be having someone I know who knows how to CNC machine parts like this bore them out and make new plates. If I had the money to invest in making billet ones then I might but that kind of thing isn't cheap at all.



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, December 22, 2006 6:25 PM
Evan (Yellowcavalier) has some 61mm he had made. He did bore one out to 62mm but I believe it cut up too far into the iac port. I have one of his 61mm tb's for my eco and it is a nice upgrade. http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=24&i=56297&t=56297



Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, December 22, 2006 6:48 PM
elkahosso wrote:Evan (Yellowcavalier) has some 61mm he had made. He did bore one out to 62mm but I believe it cut up too far into the iac port. I have one of his 61mm tb's for my eco and it is a nice upgrade. http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=24&i=56297&t=56297


Thanks, but hes got the ECO, im still with the ol' 2.4

Thanks for the replies guys.


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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:26 PM
Sorry my bad! I do know he has some for the 2.4 also but I don't think they are 62mm




Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:15 PM
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:I'll be selling custom made 67-62-62 TBs after the first of the year. Won't be a bad price either....thinking like $200-$250.


Is this for the 2.4 or ecotec?



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:46 PM
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:I'll be selling custom made 67-62-62 TBs after the first of the year. Won't be a bad price either....thinking like $200-$250.


If you offer them for the 2.4L I'll be looking for one after the new year.



Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 7:18 PM
Viral (Kris) wrote:
elkahosso wrote:Evan (Yellowcavalier) has some 61mm he had made. He did bore one out to 62mm but I believe it cut up too far into the iac port. I have one of his 61mm tb's for my eco and it is a nice upgrade. http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=24&i=56297&t=56297


Thanks, but hes got the ECO, im still with the ol' 2.4

Thanks for the replies guys.


I would PM Evan, because I think he was charging only $125 dollars if you sent him your t/b to be bored. He has some quality pieces I've heard.



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:40 PM
Wade Jarvis wrote:
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:I'll be selling custom made 67-62-62 TBs after the first of the year. Won't be a bad price either....thinking like $200-$250.


Is this for the 2.4 or ecotec?


Yes If I can find a place to make me some billet ones cheaper I'll look into that but for now I gotta offer what I can get.



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:06 PM
the new throttle body setup I'm working on:











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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:38 PM
weak You sure you need a 75mm t/b? Just sayin.........

For 2.4 t/b's contact Franz @ fjpeters@sympatico.ca Last I talked to him, he had a few 62mm ones left.




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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:04 PM
DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - BPU++ wrote:the new throttle body setup I'm working on:







The problem with that is three-fold

1) It is WAY too big for 99.999999% of Js around.
2) The turbulence that drastic change in size that comes so quickly near the plate will create IMMENSE issues.
3) You gotta find a way to make all the sensors work and find a way to calibrate it's flow to the car, not to mention make it bolt up and not leak. Not everyone has HP-Tuners and a machine shop in their garage.

Anything I make or sell would be a direct bolt-on, just swap the sensors and bolt it on. No adapters or tuning required, although I'm sure any car could benefit from tuning.



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:11 PM
sensors will work just fine.... since they are GM sensors




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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:33 AM
SpeedRacerZ wrote:sensors will work just fine.... since they are GM sensors


Does the IAC have the same nipple size and throw length?



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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:22 AM
IAC plugs right into the wiring harness

TPS is 3 wire but the plug isn't right.. I found another one on my harness that plugs into the TB that I'm not using for air conditioning


this tb is definetly overkill the billet ones you're having made will be easier to deal with but I want to see how this one works out, especially since my car is nothing but top end

idk we'll see its an experiment.. I like experiments =)






Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:38 AM
Well I was contacted by someone who saw this thread and they showed me this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280049382391&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:11

Im probably going to go this route. If not ill be in touch with the guys who were mentioned above.


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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:26 PM
The 75mm Vortec t/b that PJ showed uses the same sensors as the 2.4, the Eco has that new damn TPS.




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Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:10 PM
holy BALLS that tb is MASSIVE skwirl!!! god, i cant imagine needing such a peice! anyways...

brian... is that frank guy the one who made ur billet one? FDP or w/e?




Re: Need quick help, finding a throttle body
Friday, January 05, 2007 11:02 AM
Kris, I am testing a 2.4L 62mm (true 62mm) right now for what used to be FDP, he no longer makes parts because his daily job keeps him busy and has no time for side work. I am testing one out because he has a few laying around the garage and is selling the one I am testing if all works well.

Problems in the past were ofcourse TPS and idle, the 2.4L motors are VERY picky about these sensors....... it may be fixed and will know for sure by Monday. We played around with different TPS settings and Franz (owner of what used to be FDP) managed to be able to change the TPS without taking it off, all it takes is a volt meter and a screw driver

If you want one Kris, I can tell Franz to hold onto one for you and I will test it out... also he has a 65mm but that may be in my hands

Shoot me an email if you have any questions Kris.


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